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I want this but as a Linux distribution.

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  • not_a_label@toot.lgbtN This user is from outside of this forum
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    @redezem @nina_kali_nina @luana @mcc I’m coming to the conclusion that anything of substance will have LLM code in it wether intentionally or otherwise 😔

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    • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

      @luana @mcc nothing says "super safe password manager" more than "161 files changed, 776 lines added, 541 line removed, some files are hidden from PR by default, authored by Claude Sonnet, merged with some tests failing"

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      @nina_kali_nina @luana @mcc Bloody hell. Maybe at least those are some cosmetic changes, like, you know, fixing indentation or something equally benign?
      #bitWarden

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      • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

        @luana @mcc nothing says "super safe password manager" more than "161 files changed, 776 lines added, 541 line removed, some files are hidden from PR by default, authored by Claude Sonnet, merged with some tests failing"

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        @nina_kali_nina @luana @mcc The file being “hidden” is an issue with Github’s UI, the source code is not actually “hidden” from people who want to read it. Also, who cares if master breaks? Do you pull Bitwarden from master and compile it or do you download pre-built releases? A lot of anti-AI sentiment today seems to have zero thought put behind it.

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        • debacle@framapiaf.orgD debacle@framapiaf.org

          @mcc

          A stritcly #AI free #Linux distribution would need to be an #AIfree #BSD or #Hurd distribution in the long run. AFAIK, the Linux #kernel itself might have some AI assisted code already. They have a strict disclosure policy, though:

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          @debacle@framapiaf.org @mcc@mastodon.social ...so linux or bsd or hurd? Linux distro uses linux kernel, bsd distro uses bsd, and no one uses hurd

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          • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

            @luana @mcc nothing says "super safe password manager" more than "161 files changed, 776 lines added, 541 line removed, some files are hidden from PR by default, authored by Claude Sonnet, merged with some tests failing"

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            @nina_kali_nina @luana @mcc @gabrielesvelto
            Not saying they are not writing crap with claude but the commit in question (https://github.com/bitwarden/clients/commit/5dc49f2) is mainly renaming an icon module.

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            • timshel@social.sparkway.orgT timshel@social.sparkway.org

              @nina_kali_nina @luana @mcc @gabrielesvelto
              Not saying they are not writing crap with claude but the commit in question (https://github.com/bitwarden/clients/commit/5dc49f2) is mainly renaming an icon module.

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              @gabrielesvelto @nina_kali_nina @mcc @Timshel using a LLM for that is ridiculous and unreliable

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              • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                @luana @mcc nothing says "super safe password manager" more than "161 files changed, 776 lines added, 541 line removed, some files are hidden from PR by default, authored by Claude Sonnet, merged with some tests failing"

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                @nina_kali_nina @luana @mcc et tu, Bitwarden 😭

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                • luana@wetdry.worldL luana@wetdry.world

                  @gabrielesvelto @nina_kali_nina @mcc @Timshel using a LLM for that is ridiculous and unreliable

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                  @luana @nina_kali_nina @mcc @Timshel Indeed, that's a job for sed or an IDE's refactoring tool if you feel fancy. Doing that kind of work with an LLM is unreliable and ridiculously expensive.

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                  • lhengstmengel@mastodon.nlL lhengstmengel@mastodon.nl

                    @lunarloony @nina_kali_nina what I'm using is old school, open source, self hosted and ai free: https://www.passwordstore.org/

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                    @lhengstmengel @lunarloony @nina_kali_nina is to possible sync the pass store with an Android phone?

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                    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                      My understanding is that Bitwarden and KeePassXC, the two open source password managers, are *both* using random code generators at this point, which is terrifying as those are the exact tools where a small error could have the largest negative impact, and also tools that once you've committed to using it you can't quickly back out if they enter a code quality decline

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                      @mcc For the Bitwarden CLI, I was already not using it because it requires running code from NPM outside of a browser, but https://github.com/doy/rbw is a great alternative.

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                      • aiono@mastodon.socialA aiono@mastodon.social

                        @lhengstmengel @lunarloony @nina_kali_nina is to possible sync the pass store with an Android phone?

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                        @aiono @lunarloony @nina_kali_nina yes, there is an android app available that works quite good: https://f-droid.org/packages/app.passwordstore.agrahn

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                        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                          My understanding is that Bitwarden and KeePassXC, the two open source password managers, are *both* using random code generators at this point, which is terrifying as those are the exact tools where a small error could have the largest negative impact, and also tools that once you've committed to using it you can't quickly back out if they enter a code quality decline

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                          @mcc "In the recently published blog post titled “About KeePassXC’s Code Quality Control“, the team stresses that AI assists developers during the review and drafting process, but no AI-generated code is merged into the KeePassXC codebase. The application itself remains fully human-written and continues to follow the rigorous security standards that its users expect."

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                          • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                            RE: https://mastodon.scot/@kim_harding/116108957641748718

                            I want this but as a Linux distribution. I don't think I'm asking for much here. I am just asking for the "open source community" to be to the left of Goldman Sachs

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                            @mcc Has Rust crossed the line yet? Rust has been such a valuable tool that I'm going to be really upset if we have to either give it up or fragment the community.

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                              @nina_kali_nina > These PRs are generally very difficult to review for humans.

                              Is it difficult for humans using AI? I’ve heard it’s easier that way 😁

                              The anti-AI crowd is more than welcome to put in the work and fork the projects they criticize for using LLMs and maintain their own repo with 100% organic homegrown code, I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for that though, being outraged over other people’s generous contributions is far more attractive.

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                              • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                My understanding is that Bitwarden and KeePassXC, the two open source password managers, are *both* using random code generators at this point, which is terrifying as those are the exact tools where a small error could have the largest negative impact, and also tools that once you've committed to using it you can't quickly back out if they enter a code quality decline

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                                @mcc Both KeePassXC and Bitwarden support exporting their databases to other password managers, how is that not a way to “quickly back out” from them? It’s not like there’s a vendor lock-in, moving from them to another password manager takes minutes at most.

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