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  • michaelimodenwald@hessen.socialM michaelimodenwald@hessen.social

    @libreoffice Different view:

    https://forum.linuxguides.de/core/index.php?article/54-libreoffice-am-abgrund-wie-die-document-foundation-ihre-eigenen-gr%C3%BCnder-vor-die/

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    lassegismo@lassegismo-social.dnsuser.info
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    #12

    @MichaelimOdenwald @libreoffice

    🥴
    Wo Menschen sind da menschelt's.
    🤷‍♂️

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    • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

      Ideally, we would have preferred to avoid this post. However, the articles and comments published in response to Collabora’s and Michael Meeks’ biased posts compel us to provide this background information on the events that led to the current situation.

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      Ideally, we would have preferred to avoid this post. However, the articles and comments published in response to Collabora’s and Michael Meeks’ biased posts compel us to provide this background information on the events that led to the current situation. Unfortunately, we have to start from the very beginning, but we’ll try to keep it brief. The launch of the LibreOffice project and The Document Foundation was handled with great enthusiasm by the founding group. They were driven by a noble goal, but also by a bit of healthy recklessness. After all, it was impossible to imagine what would happen after September 28, 2010, the date of the announcement. At the time, nobody could imagine that the companies that had supported OpenOffice.org until then like IBM would create Apache OpenOffice to kill LibreOffice. Also, if the project were to be successful, it would require resources greater than those available, and above all, a deep management experience. Fortunately, the project grew quite rapidly. However, the founders’ different backgrounds and opinions were at the same time the reason for some bold decisions – many of which right – as well as a few mistakes, which are the root cause of some of

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      wrote last edited by
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      @libreoffice

      All I want to know is that LibreOffice - fully installable on the desktop for the individual - isn’t going away any time soon.

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      • michaelimodenwald@hessen.socialM michaelimodenwald@hessen.social

        @libreoffice Different view:

        https://forum.linuxguides.de/core/index.php?article/54-libreoffice-am-abgrund-wie-die-document-foundation-ihre-eigenen-gr%C3%BCnder-vor-die/

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        wrote last edited by
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        @MichaelimOdenwald @libreoffice #AI:dr

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        • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

          Ideally, we would have preferred to avoid this post. However, the articles and comments published in response to Collabora’s and Michael Meeks’ biased posts compel us to provide this background information on the events that led to the current situation.

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          Let's put an end to the speculation - TDF Community Blog

          Ideally, we would have preferred to avoid this post. However, the articles and comments published in response to Collabora’s and Michael Meeks’ biased posts compel us to provide this background information on the events that led to the current situation. Unfortunately, we have to start from the very beginning, but we’ll try to keep it brief. The launch of the LibreOffice project and The Document Foundation was handled with great enthusiasm by the founding group. They were driven by a noble goal, but also by a bit of healthy recklessness. After all, it was impossible to imagine what would happen after September 28, 2010, the date of the announcement. At the time, nobody could imagine that the companies that had supported OpenOffice.org until then like IBM would create Apache OpenOffice to kill LibreOffice. Also, if the project were to be successful, it would require resources greater than those available, and above all, a deep management experience. Fortunately, the project grew quite rapidly. However, the founders’ different backgrounds and opinions were at the same time the reason for some bold decisions – many of which right – as well as a few mistakes, which are the root cause of some of

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          wrote last edited by
          #15

          @libreoffice

          An established organization does not get bogged down in "setting the record straight" activities, it aims higher.

          Instead, the org focuses on what it can control: the narrative it owns, one that is only recognized through actions, not words.

          The organization doesn't:
          -Waste time writing white papers defending itself; it takes a hard look and doubles down on improvement.
          -Worry about its ideas being stolen; it builds community and trust by offering what others do not.

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          • tarabara@indieweb.socialT tarabara@indieweb.social

            @libreoffice

            An established organization does not get bogged down in "setting the record straight" activities, it aims higher.

            Instead, the org focuses on what it can control: the narrative it owns, one that is only recognized through actions, not words.

            The organization doesn't:
            -Waste time writing white papers defending itself; it takes a hard look and doubles down on improvement.
            -Worry about its ideas being stolen; it builds community and trust by offering what others do not.

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            wrote last edited by
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            @libreoffice

            The org also doesn't:

            -Let those who feel wounded, unheard, or misunderstood near its PR; it cleans up blog posts and forums, removing any hint of techbro behaviors, and enlists a communicator who understands what is required to help the interested-but-overwhelmed on the path of resistance against the bigger threat to technological sovereignty.

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            • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

              Ideally, we would have preferred to avoid this post. However, the articles and comments published in response to Collabora’s and Michael Meeks’ biased posts compel us to provide this background information on the events that led to the current situation.

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              Let's put an end to the speculation - TDF Community Blog

              Ideally, we would have preferred to avoid this post. However, the articles and comments published in response to Collabora’s and Michael Meeks’ biased posts compel us to provide this background information on the events that led to the current situation. Unfortunately, we have to start from the very beginning, but we’ll try to keep it brief. The launch of the LibreOffice project and The Document Foundation was handled with great enthusiasm by the founding group. They were driven by a noble goal, but also by a bit of healthy recklessness. After all, it was impossible to imagine what would happen after September 28, 2010, the date of the announcement. At the time, nobody could imagine that the companies that had supported OpenOffice.org until then like IBM would create Apache OpenOffice to kill LibreOffice. Also, if the project were to be successful, it would require resources greater than those available, and above all, a deep management experience. Fortunately, the project grew quite rapidly. However, the founders’ different backgrounds and opinions were at the same time the reason for some bold decisions – many of which right – as well as a few mistakes, which are the root cause of some of

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              @libreoffice
              So, getting rid of active developers helps the project in exactly which way?

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              • contrarian@mstdn.plusC contrarian@mstdn.plus

                @catnux I don't think so. This is an accusation against Collabora which has had to move its development outside TDF because of all the hostility, phrased to avoid a libel lawsuit.

                @retrolasered @libreoffice

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                catnux@social.linux.pizza
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                @contrarian @retrolasered @libreoffice Do you think so ? It apppeared to me that they were talking about the beginning of the LO journée, not specifically about the current situation ?
                Did Collabora exist before TDF ? Since they are talking about the forks of OpenOffice ?
                Indeed the article on TDF's blog is not very clear about that 😊

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                • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                  Ideally, we would have preferred to avoid this post. However, the articles and comments published in response to Collabora’s and Michael Meeks’ biased posts compel us to provide this background information on the events that led to the current situation.

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                  Let's put an end to the speculation - TDF Community Blog

                  Ideally, we would have preferred to avoid this post. However, the articles and comments published in response to Collabora’s and Michael Meeks’ biased posts compel us to provide this background information on the events that led to the current situation. Unfortunately, we have to start from the very beginning, but we’ll try to keep it brief. The launch of the LibreOffice project and The Document Foundation was handled with great enthusiasm by the founding group. They were driven by a noble goal, but also by a bit of healthy recklessness. After all, it was impossible to imagine what would happen after September 28, 2010, the date of the announcement. At the time, nobody could imagine that the companies that had supported OpenOffice.org until then like IBM would create Apache OpenOffice to kill LibreOffice. Also, if the project were to be successful, it would require resources greater than those available, and above all, a deep management experience. Fortunately, the project grew quite rapidly. However, the founders’ different backgrounds and opinions were at the same time the reason for some bold decisions – many of which right – as well as a few mistakes, which are the root cause of some of

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                  @libreoffice

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                  @libreoffice
                  Anyone who begins an acronym with "The" is a navel-gazer who shouldn't be in charge of anything.

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                  • C catnux@social.linux.pizza

                    @contrarian @retrolasered @libreoffice Do you think so ? It apppeared to me that they were talking about the beginning of the LO journée, not specifically about the current situation ?
                    Did Collabora exist before TDF ? Since they are talking about the forks of OpenOffice ?
                    Indeed the article on TDF's blog is not very clear about that 😊

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                    #20

                    @catnux
                    Whoever wrote it is skilled at lawsuit-avoiding innuendo for sure!

                    @retrolasered @libreoffice

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                    • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                      Ideally, we would have preferred to avoid this post. However, the articles and comments published in response to Collabora’s and Michael Meeks’ biased posts compel us to provide this background information on the events that led to the current situation.

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                      Ideally, we would have preferred to avoid this post. However, the articles and comments published in response to Collabora’s and Michael Meeks’ biased posts compel us to provide this background information on the events that led to the current situation. Unfortunately, we have to start from the very beginning, but we’ll try to keep it brief. The launch of the LibreOffice project and The Document Foundation was handled with great enthusiasm by the founding group. They were driven by a noble goal, but also by a bit of healthy recklessness. After all, it was impossible to imagine what would happen after September 28, 2010, the date of the announcement. At the time, nobody could imagine that the companies that had supported OpenOffice.org until then like IBM would create Apache OpenOffice to kill LibreOffice. Also, if the project were to be successful, it would require resources greater than those available, and above all, a deep management experience. Fortunately, the project grew quite rapidly. However, the founders’ different backgrounds and opinions were at the same time the reason for some bold decisions – many of which right – as well as a few mistakes, which are the root cause of some of

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                      @libreoffice About "The origins of TDC are controversial.". I had to search what 'TDC' is. Maybe replace 'TDC' with 'The Document Collective (TDC)'?

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