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  3. One thought that I can’t seem to shake lately is that there’s an absence of “accounting for evil”.

One thought that I can’t seem to shake lately is that there’s an absence of “accounting for evil”.

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    One thought that I can’t seem to shake lately is that there’s an absence of “accounting for evil”.

    There’s a lot of discussion around what people propose we need to do in order to address $CRISIS (take your pick—there’s plenty of them to go around). These proposals usually incude reasonable and altogether positive steps that involve people working together.

    And then I remember that there’s a small percentage of the population who classify as either sociopaths or psychopaths. And, somehow, those people end up in positions of power—or control vast sums of wealth, and thus influence those in power.

    It makes me wonder how the proposals would change if they accounted for the fact that evil people exist, and that evil people will act (or are acting) to counter their proposal(s).

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    • securingdev@infosec.exchangeS securingdev@infosec.exchange

      One thought that I can’t seem to shake lately is that there’s an absence of “accounting for evil”.

      There’s a lot of discussion around what people propose we need to do in order to address $CRISIS (take your pick—there’s plenty of them to go around). These proposals usually incude reasonable and altogether positive steps that involve people working together.

      And then I remember that there’s a small percentage of the population who classify as either sociopaths or psychopaths. And, somehow, those people end up in positions of power—or control vast sums of wealth, and thus influence those in power.

      It makes me wonder how the proposals would change if they accounted for the fact that evil people exist, and that evil people will act (or are acting) to counter their proposal(s).

      catsalad@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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      @securingdev Not to be confused with "accounting, for evil" which is just regular accounting with off shore tax evasion 🙃

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        @securingdev Not to be confused with "accounting, for evil" which is just regular accounting with off shore tax evasion 🙃

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        @catsalad grammar truly is one of the most important elements of prose 🫠

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        • securingdev@infosec.exchangeS securingdev@infosec.exchange

          One thought that I can’t seem to shake lately is that there’s an absence of “accounting for evil”.

          There’s a lot of discussion around what people propose we need to do in order to address $CRISIS (take your pick—there’s plenty of them to go around). These proposals usually incude reasonable and altogether positive steps that involve people working together.

          And then I remember that there’s a small percentage of the population who classify as either sociopaths or psychopaths. And, somehow, those people end up in positions of power—or control vast sums of wealth, and thus influence those in power.

          It makes me wonder how the proposals would change if they accounted for the fact that evil people exist, and that evil people will act (or are acting) to counter their proposal(s).

          nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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          @securingdev It's amazing how much just completely precludes the entire idea.

          Like the founding fathers just assuming that it wouldn't even be possible for an entire party to become so openly corrupt that the few checks and balances we have could not stop them from completely destroying our democracy for their profit.

          I truly wish I had the answers, I did. All I can think of is we have to learn from things and adapt, but first we have to survive what they're doing...

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          • securingdev@infosec.exchangeS securingdev@infosec.exchange

            One thought that I can’t seem to shake lately is that there’s an absence of “accounting for evil”.

            There’s a lot of discussion around what people propose we need to do in order to address $CRISIS (take your pick—there’s plenty of them to go around). These proposals usually incude reasonable and altogether positive steps that involve people working together.

            And then I remember that there’s a small percentage of the population who classify as either sociopaths or psychopaths. And, somehow, those people end up in positions of power—or control vast sums of wealth, and thus influence those in power.

            It makes me wonder how the proposals would change if they accounted for the fact that evil people exist, and that evil people will act (or are acting) to counter their proposal(s).

            jwcph@helvede.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            @securingdev So very, very much this!! 🙌

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            • nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social

              @securingdev It's amazing how much just completely precludes the entire idea.

              Like the founding fathers just assuming that it wouldn't even be possible for an entire party to become so openly corrupt that the few checks and balances we have could not stop them from completely destroying our democracy for their profit.

              I truly wish I had the answers, I did. All I can think of is we have to learn from things and adapt, but first we have to survive what they're doing...

              keydelk@fosstodon.orgK This user is from outside of this forum
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              @nazokiyoubinbou @securingdev yup. I think this was the major failing of Marx; he failed to anticipate that someone like Stalin or Mao would take control of the dictatorship of the proletariat.

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