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  • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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    "Apple Predicted Your AI Assistant in 1987. They Were Off by 18 Days" Looks like there are enough tools, services, and open-source versions of various apps to make this "real" we'll see what is possible soon, Mastodon dudes, if you do not like the content we publish, you don't need to read it, block, move on - for everyone else, stop back later. siri was october 2011

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    • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

      "Apple Predicted Your AI Assistant in 1987. They Were Off by 18 Days" Looks like there are enough tools, services, and open-source versions of various apps to make this "real" we'll see what is possible soon, Mastodon dudes, if you do not like the content we publish, you don't need to read it, block, move on - for everyone else, stop back later. siri was october 2011

      mistergibson@turtleisland.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @adafruit Ah yes, the "Knowledge Navigator" --> I remember it well.

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      • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

        "Apple Predicted Your AI Assistant in 1987. They Were Off by 18 Days" Looks like there are enough tools, services, and open-source versions of various apps to make this "real" we'll see what is possible soon, Mastodon dudes, if you do not like the content we publish, you don't need to read it, block, move on - for everyone else, stop back later. siri was october 2011

        nik@toot.teckids.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
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        @adafruit You realise you are talking to and insulting your customers, right?

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          @adafruit You realise you are talking to and insulting your customers, right?

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          @nik @adafruit

          They are talking to everyone. This is Mastodon - if you don't like a poster, don't follow, or block and move on.

          Background for the confused: some folks at Adafruit have found utility in using AI for circuit board layouts. This isn't unreasonable - verifiable technical tasks evade some of the flaws in current AI output. Some other folks are offended by this. They should shop elsewhere if it's that important to them. What they shouldn't do is try to drag *anyone* for it, especially on Mastodon. On mastodon, you only see content of people you follow or that people you follow boosted. If you don't like that content - block or unfollow, please. Evangelists of any stripe will have a hard time here by design. We block early and often.

          Yes, AI has some ugly baggage. But like almost everything in this world, it is not wholly evil or pure - it's just tech, and the moral value comes from how it's created and used, it isn't inherent. My personal take is that the technology is far less an issue than the reality of how it was trained and how the businesses selling it are affecting the economy, but doing that justice is a rant that also probably doesn't belong here.

          If this upsets anyone, block me. Please.

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            @nik @adafruit

            They are talking to everyone. This is Mastodon - if you don't like a poster, don't follow, or block and move on.

            Background for the confused: some folks at Adafruit have found utility in using AI for circuit board layouts. This isn't unreasonable - verifiable technical tasks evade some of the flaws in current AI output. Some other folks are offended by this. They should shop elsewhere if it's that important to them. What they shouldn't do is try to drag *anyone* for it, especially on Mastodon. On mastodon, you only see content of people you follow or that people you follow boosted. If you don't like that content - block or unfollow, please. Evangelists of any stripe will have a hard time here by design. We block early and often.

            Yes, AI has some ugly baggage. But like almost everything in this world, it is not wholly evil or pure - it's just tech, and the moral value comes from how it's created and used, it isn't inherent. My personal take is that the technology is far less an issue than the reality of how it was trained and how the businesses selling it are affecting the economy, but doing that justice is a rant that also probably doesn't belong here.

            If this upsets anyone, block me. Please.

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            @tbortels @nik @adafruit AI is just a tool. AI as it is being deployed today is speed running climate change, stealing from society, and solidifying the control of the tech oligarchs. That's the stuff people take offense with and also kind of a huge thing, so some people get very upset.

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            • kholerik@social.tchncs.deK kholerik@social.tchncs.de

              @tbortels @nik @adafruit AI is just a tool. AI as it is being deployed today is speed running climate change, stealing from society, and solidifying the control of the tech oligarchs. That's the stuff people take offense with and also kind of a huge thing, so some people get very upset.

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              @nik @adafruit @kholerik

              I both get it and agree.

              But Adafruit was unfairly dragged recently by a mistaken association with another vendor and got dogpiled on; the original poster deleted their post, but the mob is still riled.

              If you dislike AI and the effects it has on our society - I mostly agree. But the problem is less the users, and more the AI companies who are doing all sorts of illegal and unethical shit. They are the correct targets of our collective ire, not the end users. I have a feeling most AI end-users will get burned quickly enough without people yelling at them online TBH - the viable use-cases are far more narrow than the evangelists would have us believe.

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                @nik @adafruit @kholerik

                I both get it and agree.

                But Adafruit was unfairly dragged recently by a mistaken association with another vendor and got dogpiled on; the original poster deleted their post, but the mob is still riled.

                If you dislike AI and the effects it has on our society - I mostly agree. But the problem is less the users, and more the AI companies who are doing all sorts of illegal and unethical shit. They are the correct targets of our collective ire, not the end users. I have a feeling most AI end-users will get burned quickly enough without people yelling at them online TBH - the viable use-cases are far more narrow than the evangelists would have us believe.

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                @tbortels @nik @adafruit I think the mob is mostly riled because of the idiotic way in which Adafruit decided to response to the initial mistake.

                Besides that I think we agree. My problem with AI is mainly that it's mostly controlled by a few assholes. With the insane resource requirements being a close second.

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