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Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January?

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  • simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS simonzerafa@infosec.exchange

    @_elena

    I've also seen references to a BlackSky SM platform which seems to be another Bluesky clone? πŸ™‚πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

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    @simonzerafa I think calling Blacksky a clone is too limiting as they do a ton of good and original work from what I can tell. @_elena

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    • H hannes99@mastodon.social

      @_elena and #Wedium (again W) is just as shady. https://www.rnd.de/wirtschaft/wedium-und-w-social-jetzt-kommen-die-europaeischen-social-media-alternativen-RY5VRNGZXFDXFBCUNSZMZRM6SY.html

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      @hannes99

      @_elena

      We don't want monetization. That's why we're in the Fediverse. Some people (avoiding name-calling here) want monetization. WSocial is for them.

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

        Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

        You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

        https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

        #OpenWashing

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        @_elena

        "Its founders have ties with European politicians"

        Apparently also including the German data protection representative Louisa Specht-Riemenschneider 😏

        https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesbeauftragter_f%C3%BCr_den_Datenschutz_und_die_Informationsfreiheit

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

          Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

          You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

          https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

          #OpenWashing

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          @_elena Its goal is to promote you carrying an agent around to spy on you.

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          • H hannes99@mastodon.social

            @_elena and #Wedium (again W) is just as shady. https://www.rnd.de/wirtschaft/wedium-und-w-social-jetzt-kommen-die-europaeischen-social-media-alternativen-RY5VRNGZXFDXFBCUNSZMZRM6SY.html

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            @hannes99 I'd venture to say that Wedium is FAR shadier because it's not based on an open protocol...

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            • m4lvin@goto.fiets.pizzaM m4lvin@goto.fiets.pizza

              @_elena Thank you for all the research and writing it up this way!
              Bookmarking it for anyone who will mention "W" to me.

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              @m4lvin thank you! ❀️

              that was the main goal: use this piece as reference anytime someone brings up W Social and some myths about it

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              • bjornw@mastodon.socialB bjornw@mastodon.social

                @_elena thank you, for doing the work journalism / media should have been doing!

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                @BjornW thank you Bjorn! It means a lot coming from you ❀️

                I'm now thinking I need to translate this into French as well... there is SO MUCH misinformation about W Social here

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                • feyter@mastodon.gamedev.placeF feyter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  @_elena At least for me it's clear... W social is a financial project to grap some founding money. It's not a project with European sovereignty in mind or with sovereignty for Europeans.

                  Therefore, it should be avoided.

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                  @feyter I think they are betting on mandatory age verification in Europe... which would give them a leg up over Eurosky

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    @hannes99 I'd venture to say that Wedium is FAR shadier because it's not based on an open protocol...

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                    @_elena true. At least Bluesky/AT Proto is a solid (while US BigTech) basis. And apparently in their entire team is only IT person, thus heavy usage of vibe coding, when you have to build an entire new social media platform (and protocol) from scratch with only one person. The rest of the #Wedium team is marketing, finance and fundraising experts.

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                      Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                      You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                      https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                      #OpenWashing

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                      @_elena πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯

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                        @_elena πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯

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                        @Gina πŸ₯°πŸ˜˜

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                          Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                          You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                          https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                          #OpenWashing

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                          @_elena Doing the Lord's Work (TM) -- awesome.

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