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Military historian Bret Devereaux:

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    Military historian Bret Devereaux:

    "This war is dumb as hell.

    For the U.S. this war was an unwise gamble on extremely long odds; the gamble (that the regime would collapse swiftly) has already failed and as a result locked in essentially nothing but negative outcomes.

    Even with the regime were to collapse in the coming weeks or suddenly sue for peace, every likely outcome leaves the U.S. in a meaningfully worse strategic position than when it started."

    https://acoup.blog/2026/03/25/miscellanea-the-war-in-iran/
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      Military historian Bret Devereaux:

      "This war is dumb as hell.

      For the U.S. this war was an unwise gamble on extremely long odds; the gamble (that the regime would collapse swiftly) has already failed and as a result locked in essentially nothing but negative outcomes.

      Even with the regime were to collapse in the coming weeks or suddenly sue for peace, every likely outcome leaves the U.S. in a meaningfully worse strategic position than when it started."

      https://acoup.blog/2026/03/25/miscellanea-the-war-in-iran/
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      Bret Devereaux ends with -

      "It is not possible for two sides to both win a war. But it is absolutely possible for both sides to lose; mutual ruin is an option. Every actor involved in this war – the United States, Iran, arguably Israel, the Gulf states, the rest of the energy-using world – is on net poorer, more vulnerable, more resource-precarious as a result.

      Maybe the war will be over tomorrow. The consequences will last a lot longer."

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        Bret Devereaux ends with -

        "It is not possible for two sides to both win a war. But it is absolutely possible for both sides to lose; mutual ruin is an option. Every actor involved in this war – the United States, Iran, arguably Israel, the Gulf states, the rest of the energy-using world – is on net poorer, more vulnerable, more resource-precarious as a result.

        Maybe the war will be over tomorrow. The consequences will last a lot longer."

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        @AkaSci Welcome to Trumplandia.

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          Bret Devereaux ends with -

          "It is not possible for two sides to both win a war. But it is absolutely possible for both sides to lose; mutual ruin is an option. Every actor involved in this war – the United States, Iran, arguably Israel, the Gulf states, the rest of the energy-using world – is on net poorer, more vulnerable, more resource-precarious as a result.

          Maybe the war will be over tomorrow. The consequences will last a lot longer."

          #UsPol
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          @AkaSci I would argue that no one ever wins a war.

          As for those consequences... They last centuries. The last time I saw Christianity being discussed as a moral religion, one of the instant answers was about the Crusades.

          When thinking of Germany, it is almost impossible to not think of WWII. Norway reminds people of Vikings. The consequences never go away.

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