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  3. Looking into systemd complying in advance with fascism ("age verification"), I was curious who is employing Lennart Poettering these days.

Looking into systemd complying in advance with fascism ("age verification"), I was curious who is employing Lennart Poettering these days.

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  • be@floss.socialB be@floss.social

    https://tboteproject.com/ is tracking the dark money from Meta and the Heritage Foundation behind the age verification law astroturfing campaign.

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    WARNING: This operating system contains GAY known to the State of California to trans the kids.

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      @amillefolium Yep, the companies pushing these laws make their money by associating data produced by how people use the device to their identity. Making it illegal to be anonymous on the internet is very helpful for their surveillance, and thus profits.

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      • willow@social.translunar.academyW willow@social.translunar.academy
        @be what are they supposed to do? let Linux be illegal in California? /notmad
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        @Willow @be Yes, and then call for a raid on Meta's/X's/Google's datacentres to confirm they aren't running illegal OSes.

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        • be@floss.socialB be@floss.social

          In case you missed systemd complying in advance with fascism... https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/40954

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          @be Yeah fuck that! Am so glad I run a Linux system (on several devices in fact) that doesn't use systemd at all. Complying with fascism aside, WTAF why is an init system getting involved in this. Worse still, there did seem to be polite review comments suggesting this was premature ... then comments were turned off ... then Claude did a review and shortly after the thing got merged. Yeah, whole host of reasons not to use systemd then!

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          • be@floss.socialB be@floss.social

            In case you missed systemd complying in advance with fascism... https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/40954

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            @be And the icing on the cake

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            • be@floss.socialB be@floss.social

              I am skeptical of Ageless Linux's argument that the motivation behind these laws is to make it impossible/expensive for FOSS operating systems to comply. I think the real motivation is to get ahead of the discourse about how Big Tech harms children. They want to claim that they're doing their part to protect children. That would be a great smokescreen to distract from efforts for regulations to make them change their tech to make it not harmful to anyone, regardless of age.

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              @be this is word for word the EFF line about regulations as monopoly protections. in some cases this can be true but i recall they always mention it regarding stuff that affects facebook, which results in the EFF claiming facebook regs actually help facebook.

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                @be this is word for word the EFF line about regulations as monopoly protections. in some cases this can be true but i recall they always mention it regarding stuff that affects facebook, which results in the EFF claiming facebook regs actually help facebook.

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                @be oh neat facebook involvement https://floss.social/@be/116259428771089394

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                  @Ember @be think your instincts are spot-on; i recalled a previous instance of propaganda laundering https://circumstances.run/@hipsterelectron/116261919716350723

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                    @Ember and embarassingly, they're handling this better than real distros 🥴

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                    • be@floss.socialB be@floss.social

                      WARNING: This operating system contains GAY known to the State of California to trans the kids.

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                      I am starting to seriously consider switching distros to one that does not use systemd based on these recent events... maybe I should try Guix. Looks like it has KDE packaged now, unlike the last time I looked at it.

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                      • be@floss.socialB be@floss.social

                        I am starting to seriously consider switching distros to one that does not use systemd based on these recent events... maybe I should try Guix. Looks like it has KDE packaged now, unlike the last time I looked at it.

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                        @be What's the systemd connection? I've been watching the age discussion from the sidelines but not closely enough to know how that's related.

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                        • be@floss.socialB be@floss.social

                          Looking into systemd complying in advance with fascism ("age verification"), I was curious who is employing Lennart Poettering these days. Turns out he and some other systemd developers recently made a startup...

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                          @be he was microsoft for a long time iirc

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                          • be@floss.socialB be@floss.social

                            I am starting to seriously consider switching distros to one that does not use systemd based on these recent events... maybe I should try Guix. Looks like it has KDE packaged now, unlike the last time I looked at it.

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                            @be not sure kde and gnome are all white in this. I may be uselessly suspicious.

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                            • be@floss.socialB be@floss.social

                              In case you missed systemd complying in advance with fascism... https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/40954

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                              @be Ah, one more reason to dislike systemd. Guess Devuan or something then.. Or all the way back to my bsd days..

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                              • coreysnipes@hachyderm.ioC coreysnipes@hachyderm.io

                                @be What's the systemd connection? I've been watching the age discussion from the sidelines but not closely enough to know how that's related.

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                                @coreysnipes scroll up https://floss.social/@be/116257806028312722

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                                • f4grx@chaos.socialF f4grx@chaos.social

                                  @be not sure kde and gnome are all white in this. I may be uselessly suspicious.

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                                  @f4grx They're not. The XDG Desktop Portal PR was made by a KDE developer. https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/pull/1922

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                                  • f4grx@chaos.socialF f4grx@chaos.social

                                    @be he was microsoft for a long time iirc

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                                    @f4grx yep I am aware

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