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can we talk about how deliberately, purposefully cruel the UK settlement (permanent residency) process is

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  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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    can we talk about how deliberately, purposefully cruel the UK settlement (permanent residency) process is

    super priority for 1000 GBP gives you the result on next day

    btw it's 3226 GBP per person

    whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW tengu@snug.moeT coral@empty.cafeC mini_ninja_64@chaos.socialM atatra@computerfairi.esA 6 Replies Last reply
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    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

      can we talk about how deliberately, purposefully cruel the UK settlement (permanent residency) process is

      super priority for 1000 GBP gives you the result on next day

      btw it's 3226 GBP per person

      whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
      whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
      whitequark@social.treehouse.systems
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      #2

      imagine paying several of your monthly salaries for this application (even as a tech worker that is steep, the base cost is slightly above my take home pay right now) then having to travel to your home country because of a family emergency and getting shafted by UKVI as a result

      hypostase@bsd.networkH arch@floofy.techA gsuberland@chaos.socialG whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW 4 Replies Last reply
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      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

        can we talk about how deliberately, purposefully cruel the UK settlement (permanent residency) process is

        super priority for 1000 GBP gives you the result on next day

        btw it's 3226 GBP per person

        tengu@snug.moeT This user is from outside of this forum
        tengu@snug.moeT This user is from outside of this forum
        tengu@snug.moe
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        @whitequark What this for? ​​

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        • tengu@snug.moeT tengu@snug.moe

          @whitequark What this for? ​​

          whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
          whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
          whitequark@social.treehouse.systems
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          @Tengu UK settlement

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          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

            imagine paying several of your monthly salaries for this application (even as a tech worker that is steep, the base cost is slightly above my take home pay right now) then having to travel to your home country because of a family emergency and getting shafted by UKVI as a result

            hypostase@bsd.networkH This user is from outside of this forum
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            hypostase@bsd.network
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            @whitequark yes. By design.

            Even as a kiwi, about as close to British for immigration purposes as you can be without actually being British, I found the whole process frustrating, and in the intervening years I’ve watched them pile on humiliation after humiliation, just because they can.

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            • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

              can we talk about how deliberately, purposefully cruel the UK settlement (permanent residency) process is

              super priority for 1000 GBP gives you the result on next day

              btw it's 3226 GBP per person

              coral@empty.cafeC This user is from outside of this forum
              coral@empty.cafeC This user is from outside of this forum
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              @whitequark yes, it is. I didn't even know about the police registration requirement.

              Many people who consider themselves internationally-minded and tolerant have no idea about any of this.

              whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW artemist@social.mildlyfunctional.gayA 2 Replies Last reply
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              • hypostase@bsd.networkH hypostase@bsd.network

                @whitequark yes. By design.

                Even as a kiwi, about as close to British for immigration purposes as you can be without actually being British, I found the whole process frustrating, and in the intervening years I’ve watched them pile on humiliation after humiliation, just because they can.

                whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
                whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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                @hypostase home office is the type of organization that would invent Racism 2 because they found the original one insufficient

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                • coral@empty.cafeC coral@empty.cafe

                  @whitequark yes, it is. I didn't even know about the police registration requirement.

                  Many people who consider themselves internationally-minded and tolerant have no idea about any of this.

                  whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
                  whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @coral that one was removed a few years ago

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                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                    @Tengu UK settlement

                    hyc@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @whitequark @Tengu Irish citizenship requires continuous presence in Ireland for 365 days up to the date of your application (along with 5 years legal residence). That's one reason I didn't apply until 3 years after I was eligible, was always traveling.

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                    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                      imagine paying several of your monthly salaries for this application (even as a tech worker that is steep, the base cost is slightly above my take home pay right now) then having to travel to your home country because of a family emergency and getting shafted by UKVI as a result

                      arch@floofy.techA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @whitequark I've heard that the Home Office operates at an insane profit because of these fees.

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                      • hyc@mastodon.socialH hyc@mastodon.social

                        @whitequark @Tengu Irish citizenship requires continuous presence in Ireland for 365 days up to the date of your application (along with 5 years legal residence). That's one reason I didn't apply until 3 years after I was eligible, was always traveling.

                        whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @hyc @Tengu there is also that requirement in the UK (the exact calculation is a pain in the ass but there are rules like "no more than 180 day absence" and "must have resided in the UK exactly five years before citizenship application". Who the fuck tracks this shit)

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                        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                          @hypostase home office is the type of organization that would invent Racism 2 because they found the original one insufficient

                          hypostase@bsd.networkH This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @whitequark ouch. I felt that one. Not even a little bit wrong.

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                          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                            @hyc @Tengu there is also that requirement in the UK (the exact calculation is a pain in the ass but there are rules like "no more than 180 day absence" and "must have resided in the UK exactly five years before citizenship application". Who the fuck tracks this shit)

                            hyc@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @whitequark @Tengu yeah.... who tracks it - they required a complete list of dates of entry/exit along with photocopies of all relevant passport pages with entry/exit stamps. Great fun.

                            And then after you've gathered all required paperwork, they're bound to say you got something wrong. I hired an immigration lawyer (solicitor) to help - they reviewed my stuff and submitted the paperwork on my behalf, so they dealt with any pushback first.

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                            • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                              imagine paying several of your monthly salaries for this application (even as a tech worker that is steep, the base cost is slightly above my take home pay right now) then having to travel to your home country because of a family emergency and getting shafted by UKVI as a result

                              gsuberland@chaos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @whitequark yeah when Theresa May said "hostile environment" she really fucking meant it. it's grim.

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                              • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                                @whitequark yeah when Theresa May said "hostile environment" she really fucking meant it. it's grim.

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                                @gsuberland putting the grim in government.

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                                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                  can we talk about how deliberately, purposefully cruel the UK settlement (permanent residency) process is

                                  super priority for 1000 GBP gives you the result on next day

                                  btw it's 3226 GBP per person

                                  mini_ninja_64@chaos.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @whitequark its disgusting , every year they make it hharder and pricier, so many of my colleagues have had trouble with thr process and excess scrutiny applied for no reason other than where they were born

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                                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                    @hyc @Tengu there is also that requirement in the UK (the exact calculation is a pain in the ass but there are rules like "no more than 180 day absence" and "must have resided in the UK exactly five years before citizenship application". Who the fuck tracks this shit)

                                    ilmari@social.treehouse.systemsI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @whitequark @hyc @Tengu I've lived in the UK for nearly 20 years and have EU/EEA Settled Status (can I have a "FUCK BREXIT!"?), but I still haven't got around to doing the citizenship dance because of the ludicrous paperwork requirements (need to list every time I've been outside the UK in the last 5 years) and fees (citizenship application "only" costs £1839, plus the language test).

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                                    • ilmari@social.treehouse.systemsI ilmari@social.treehouse.systems

                                      @whitequark @hyc @Tengu I've lived in the UK for nearly 20 years and have EU/EEA Settled Status (can I have a "FUCK BREXIT!"?), but I still haven't got around to doing the citizenship dance because of the ludicrous paperwork requirements (need to list every time I've been outside the UK in the last 5 years) and fees (citizenship application "only" costs £1839, plus the language test).

                                      whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @ilmari @hyc @Tengu you know what's funny, Brexit has been a windfall for me. all the tech workers leaving the UK for EU have paved the way for GLT, which is probably the best European immigrant visa for people without a degree. 5-year citizenship route is incredible!

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                                      • gsuberland@chaos.socialG gsuberland@chaos.social

                                        @whitequark yeah when Theresa May said "hostile environment" she really fucking meant it. it's grim.

                                        whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @gsuberland it's convenient that my life has prepared me for literally everything around being adversarial 🙂

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                                        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                          imagine paying several of your monthly salaries for this application (even as a tech worker that is steep, the base cost is slightly above my take home pay right now) then having to travel to your home country because of a family emergency and getting shafted by UKVI as a result

                                          whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          i'm well-off enough that this stuff only feels like an existential threat to my life instead of being an existential threat to my life, and i can afford to pay all the stacked fees (even if it seriously eats into my finances). i don't expect most people to be so lucky

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