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  3. My entire platform for president is to make it a felony to put a USB-C connector on a device that can only charge from a USB-A power supply.

My entire platform for president is to make it a felony to put a USB-C connector on a device that can only charge from a USB-A power supply.

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  • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

    My entire platform for president is to make it a felony to put a USB-C connector on a device that can only charge from a USB-A power supply.

    mattblaze@federate.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    I'm talking to you, Philips rechargeable worklight.

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    • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

      My entire platform for president is to make it a felony to put a USB-C connector on a device that can only charge from a USB-A power supply.

      robpike@hachyderm.ioR This user is from outside of this forum
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      @mattblaze To save a tenth of a cent for a pull-up resistor?

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      • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

        My entire platform for president is to make it a felony to put a USB-C connector on a device that can only charge from a USB-A power supply.

        jripley@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        @mattblaze But Matt, those two resistors would bankrupt so many companies, the US would go into a great recession!

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        • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

          I'm talking to you, Philips rechargeable worklight.

          n1xnx@tilde.zoneN This user is from outside of this forum
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          @mattblaze
          If you're talking to an appliance, you'll probably need to be holding a hammer in order to convince it you're serious.

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          • robpike@hachyderm.ioR robpike@hachyderm.io

            @mattblaze To save a tenth of a cent for a pull-up resistor?

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            @robpike I guess it adds up.

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            • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

              I'm talking to you, Philips rechargeable worklight.

              ashwin@defcon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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              @mattblaze

              With AI, iOT, and needless features being crammed into everything, the day is not far when it might actually talk back.

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              • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                @robpike I guess it adds up.

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                @mattblaze @robpike hey now. It’s TWO resistors!

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                • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                  My entire platform for president is to make it a felony to put a USB-C connector on a device that can only charge from a USB-A power supply.

                  20002ist@thepit.social2 This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @mattblaze You mean the wall wart has a female A connector & thus the cable is male A to male C?

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                  • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                    My entire platform for president is to make it a felony to put a USB-C connector on a device that can only charge from a USB-A power supply.

                    schamschula@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @mattblaze Last week I had to buy a pair of these hybrid charging cables. I hear this is to save installing a single resistor. I think the cables cost more than a resistor...
                    Where is the EU when we need them?

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                    • 20002ist@thepit.social2 20002ist@thepit.social

                      @mattblaze You mean the wall wart has a female A connector & thus the cable is male A to male C?

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                      @20002ist Right. They ship a device with a USB-C connector and a USB-C to USB-A cable, and warn you only their cable works.

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                      • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                        @20002ist Right. They ship a device with a USB-C connector and a USB-C to USB-A cable, and warn you only their cable works.

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                        @mattblaze @20002ist USB-A to USB-C cables aren't uncommon, especially for charging. But "only their cable works" is bizarre.

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                        • stevebellovin@infosec.exchangeS stevebellovin@infosec.exchange

                          @mattblaze @20002ist USB-A to USB-C cables aren't uncommon, especially for charging. But "only their cable works" is bizarre.

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                          @SteveBellovin @20002ist Yes, I understand you can get the cables. I have cables.

                          The problem is that if I see a USB-C connector, I should reasonably expect to be able to charge it with a USB-C charger.

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                          • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                            My entire platform for president is to make it a felony to put a USB-C connector on a device that can only charge from a USB-A power supply.

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                            @mattblaze Understandable, you have my vote.
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                            • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                              @20002ist Right. They ship a device with a USB-C connector and a USB-C to USB-A cable, and warn you only their cable works.

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                              @mattblaze @20002ist

                              Only their cable works should be a crime.

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                              • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                                @20002ist Right. They ship a device with a USB-C connector and a USB-C to USB-A cable, and warn you only their cable works.

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                                @mattblaze As in “don’t use a USB-C charger & cable because the former will damage the device/void the warranty/cause all life as you know it to stop instantaneously and every molecule in your body to explode at the speed of light”? Yeah, that’s seriously brain-damaged.

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                                • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                                  @SteveBellovin @20002ist Yes, I understand you can get the cables. I have cables.

                                  The problem is that if I see a USB-C connector, I should reasonably expect to be able to charge it with a USB-C charger.

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                                  @SteveBellovin @20002ist The underlying issue is devices that were designed for an older USB-mini or -micro connector that gets swapped right before production for USB-C, without adding the resistors to the circuit. USB-C doesn't supply 5V to an open circuit the way USB-A does.

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                                  • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                                    My entire platform for president is to make it a felony to put a USB-C connector on a device that can only charge from a USB-A power supply.

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                                    @mattblaze Just in the last three months, I've acquired four such devices. It's just rude.

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