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  3. The ProPublica piece is kind of a mess - it doesn't even mention CISA by name - but some of the issues are concerning.

The ProPublica piece is kind of a mess - it doesn't even mention CISA by name - but some of the issues are concerning.

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  • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

    RE: https://esq.social/@SuffolkLITLab/116229521620498862

    The ProPublica piece is kind of a mess - it doesn't even mention CISA by name - but some of the issues are concerning. In particular, the proposals are extremely vague.

    They want to ban "voting machines" (under what authority?). Does that mean touchscreen DREs? Fine, that's what virtually all technical experts have recommended for a while. Or do they mean any electronic tabulation, including optical scan paper ballots (widely used and amenable to reliable post-election audits)?

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    @mattblaze tbf, I am shocked that CISA has still enough resources to put out anything at all. They took a really heavy hit

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    • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

      RE: https://esq.social/@SuffolkLITLab/116229521620498862

      The ProPublica piece is kind of a mess - it doesn't even mention CISA by name - but some of the issues are concerning. In particular, the proposals are extremely vague.

      They want to ban "voting machines" (under what authority?). Does that mean touchscreen DREs? Fine, that's what virtually all technical experts have recommended for a while. Or do they mean any electronic tabulation, including optical scan paper ballots (widely used and amenable to reliable post-election audits)?

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      @mattblaze The GOP, through it's many surrogates, does whatever it can to make voting more difficult for everyone. That way, it's easier for them to CHEAT.

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      • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

        Finally, "whether your candidate won" is not a meaningful test for election fraud.

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        @mattblaze It reminds me of the changing room talk when I was eight years old after gym class where "you cheated" was always the talking point. Unfortunately when it comes to elections it's deadly serious.

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          @lin11c the people you’re citing are election deniers who are raising money to “prove” that the 2024 election was rigged. They’re suckering statistically unsophisticated Harris supporters with nonsensical but complex pseudo mathematical bullshit.

          Please don’t promote this stuff.

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          • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

            Also, it's simply too late to make any major changes to election systems this year. Primaries have already started, and the general election is in eight months.

            I think it's reasonable to suspect that the play here is simply to set the stage for casting doubt on election outcomes that they regard as unfavorable.

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            @mattblaze

            I hope you're right. I'm afraid the play will be to issue an 11th-hour executive order claiming some such authority (maybe nominally based on some obscure law or ruling that had never been interpreted like that before). Then tie everything up in state legislatures, courts, and chaos.

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            • mattdm@hachyderm.ioM mattdm@hachyderm.io

              @mattblaze

              I hope you're right. I'm afraid the play will be to issue an 11th-hour executive order claiming some such authority (maybe nominally based on some obscure law or ruling that had never been interpreted like that before). Then tie everything up in state legislatures, courts, and chaos.

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              @mattdm maybe they have MAGICAL POWERS, too.

              Trying to stick to what we actually know here.

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              • eka_foof_a@spacey.spaceE eka_foof_a@spacey.space

                @mattblaze
                There are people in TX who recorded the touchscreen voting machines recording votes to candidates they didn't touch the buttons for.

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                @Eka_FOOF_A @mattblaze

                Eka, you should read this https://www.npr.org/2016/10/26/499450796/some-machines-are-flipping-votes-but-that-doesnt-mean-theyre-rigged

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                • eka_foof_a@spacey.spaceE eka_foof_a@spacey.space

                  @mattblaze
                  There are people in TX who recorded the touchscreen voting machines recording votes to candidates they didn't touch the buttons for.

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                  @Eka_FOOF_A @mattblaze

                  So a miscalibrated touchscreen? Happens and should be brought to the attention of the staff at the precinct. They also saw that it selected the wrong candidate.

                  It’s also why should check what prints out on the paper ballot once it prints and if you see an issue bring it to the attention of the precinct staff.

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                  • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                    @mattdm maybe they have MAGICAL POWERS, too.

                    Trying to stick to what we actually know here.

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                    @mattblaze

                    Well, we know that they _claim_ magical powers all the time over other things — birthright citizenship, tariffs, whether someone is "entering" the US. If it were as simple as "they don't really have those powers so it won't be a problem"... well, it clearly isn't.

                    Trump has talked more than once about cancelling the election. (https://time.com/7346834/trump-canceling-midterm-elections-joking-white-house/). Is it a "joke"? Well... I think this puts it well: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/07/19/donald-trump-joking-serious-00442035

                    We can't _know_, but he _has_ put it on the table.

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                      @lin11c no, I am not saying that particular statement is false. But they are grifters who are using fake statistics to claim that the 2024 election was stolen and raising money for lawsuits that give false hope to Harris supporters.

                      What a weird response.

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