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@Quarky
Bulgarians have a weird affection for russians -
@Quarky
Bulgarians have a weird affection for russians@elCelio That is insane ! I have #bulgarian friends who have no time for Russia, however they do not represent the whole of #bulgaria
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@elCelio That is insane ! I have #bulgarian friends who have no time for Russia, however they do not represent the whole of #bulgaria
@Quarky
I think younger generations have less of this feticism. maybe. -
@Quarky
I think younger generations have less of this feticism. maybe. -
@elCelio Not disputing that, I would just caution against thinking those are two ideology-motivated sworn enemy mafioso clans. They're not. Balkan politics are uh... Well. Not easily mapped on Russia and anti-Russia politics., but rather a simple numbers game in the end. Putin can't afford all those hungry mouths, our tax money funneled via EU funds will continue to outbid him.
@Veza85UE
my bar is lower: as far as they don't obstruct the consensus-based EU processes.misspending public funds is part of the political process of every country.
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@Veza85UE
my bar is lower: as far as they don't obstruct the consensus-based EU processes.misspending public funds is part of the political process of every country.
@elCelio Yes, as long as you don't rock the boat for them in the EUCO, the CDU will let its local oligarchs like Plenković, Borissov and indeed, for a long time, Orbán, run their countries like feudal satrapies. The long-term effects on not just the lives of our fellow EUropeans in those countries, but on our Union are what they are... cf:
House of Orbán: enquête sur le néo-royalisme financier en Hongrie
Sous le règne de Viktor Orbán, le pouvoir a quitté l’État. Il s’organise désormais en coulisse, autour d’un dispositif fait de loyautés, d’actifs et d’institutions captives. En s’appuyant sur le paradigme théorique du néo-royalisme, la chercheuse Palma Polyak montre comment le clan Orbán a construit sa résilience politique — et financière.
Le Grand Continent (legrandcontinent.eu)
But mine was not a moral argument against Boyko's baronialism, just saying that pro-Russia doesn't mean much to the mafia.
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@Quarky @elCelio actually many remember those times fondly, as it was just easier to live. Obv not the ones active politically, just plain workers. And its not just a matter of being younger. Thats poland, but this book explains why *some* things, important ones, were better https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_the_Wall_(book)
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@Quarky @elCelio actually many remember those times fondly, as it was just easier to live. Obv not the ones active politically, just plain workers. And its not just a matter of being younger. Thats poland, but this book explains why *some* things, important ones, were better https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_the_Wall_(book)
@Aethel @elCelio I am aware of the viewpoint in eastern Germany. When I went to eastern #Germany just after the Berlin Wall came down, I was shocked at the decay in everything. It would be naive to think that links to #Russia would return them to that way of life. The would has moved on. I book you suggest, could be worthwhile reading.
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@Aethel @elCelio I am aware of the viewpoint in eastern Germany. When I went to eastern #Germany just after the Berlin Wall came down, I was shocked at the decay in everything. It would be naive to think that links to #Russia would return them to that way of life. The would has moved on. I book you suggest, could be worthwhile reading.
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@Aethel @elCelio When I visited the Documentation Centre Nazi Party Rally Grounds in Nuremberg. The exhibition gave a full picture of the situation in Germany after WWI until the end of the last century. It really did convey how ordinary people felt and how things impacted on their lives. It was worth the visit but sadly it is how Putin operates and it reflected the current situation in other countries.
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