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I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co?

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  • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

    I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co?
    The #EU community managers are at it again with promoting the EU instance on #Mastodon!

    PS: the community management team (that's my team) are up for an award. Any chance you'd give us a vote? Project 32 on this link: https://enonet.eu/survey/index.php/227332?lang=en

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    failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to
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    #33

    @hpod16

    well, Airbus was a success
    and CERN is a success

    so maybe the EU should hire the managers of Airbus/CERN to run this ?

    but seriously, how many years does it take to build up the knowledge and infrastructure to store Tb of data with safe backup hardware/software ?

    a lot of skill just in that alone

    and moving libre offic calc into the modern era is a huge task, just by itself

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    • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

      I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co?
      The #EU community managers are at it again with promoting the EU instance on #Mastodon!

      PS: the community management team (that's my team) are up for an award. Any chance you'd give us a vote? Project 32 on this link: https://enonet.eu/survey/index.php/227332?lang=en

      somevegancheeseisok@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      somevegancheeseisok@mastodon.social
      wrote last edited by
      #34

      @hpod16 I just want old reddit, where real humans made whole threads of terrible puns and the experts posted long, detailed, passionate, rambling essays on their subjects. I *loved* that. I love reading those conversations.

      I miss that.

      hpod16@eupolicy.socialH reallylazybear@mastodon.socialR 2 Replies Last reply
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      • diogoconstantino@masto.ptD diogoconstantino@masto.pt

        @vladcampos
        What serves the public over time is guarantying them rights over software and technology. Sometimes certain jurisdictions do it better than others, this is true, but that is circunstancial, as we can see with the Commission multiple pushes for Chat Control for more than 10 years, the curent plans to weaken GDPR and other regulations to please Trumpf and Big Tech.

        @hpod16 @w3c

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        #35

        @DiogoConstantino @hpod16 @w3c I see myself as an Internationalist. That's why I mentioned #ActivityPub, a decentralized protocol that anyone can adopt. Its interconnectivity characteristics makes is local/global. BTW, it's not European. And I agree on the open source, no matter where it's from.

        But there are limits. For example, the world payment system shouldn't be dependent on Visa/MC which can be shot down by a single country. The same is true for "the Cloud", communications, etc.

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        • B brodlista@mastodon.social

          @hpod16 sure. Done.

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          mycotropic@beige.party
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          #36

          @brodlista @hpod16

          "Thank you for choosing your favourite project from the 'Award for Good Administration 2026' list.

          Your vote has been recorded:

          32. Community management of Commission social media accounts by DG COMM
          European Commission - DG COMM

          Sincerely,

          The European Ombudsman's Award team"

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          • mycotropic@beige.partyM mycotropic@beige.party

            @brodlista @hpod16

            "Thank you for choosing your favourite project from the 'Award for Good Administration 2026' list.

            Your vote has been recorded:

            32. Community management of Commission social media accounts by DG COMM
            European Commission - DG COMM

            Sincerely,

            The European Ombudsman's Award team"

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            wrote last edited by
            #37

            @mycotropic @brodlista
            Thaaaaanks 100000 million times!

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            • somevegancheeseisok@mastodon.socialS somevegancheeseisok@mastodon.social

              @hpod16 I just want old reddit, where real humans made whole threads of terrible puns and the experts posted long, detailed, passionate, rambling essays on their subjects. I *loved* that. I love reading those conversations.

              I miss that.

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              hpod16@eupolicy.social
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              #38

              @SomeVeganCheeseIsOk
              I miss 2013 tumblr, personally. I just want to create tons of blogs and edit their htmls to personalise each one.

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              • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co?
                The #EU community managers are at it again with promoting the EU instance on #Mastodon!

                PS: the community management team (that's my team) are up for an award. Any chance you'd give us a vote? Project 32 on this link: https://enonet.eu/survey/index.php/227332?lang=en

                smallcircles@social.coopS This user is from outside of this forum
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                smallcircles@social.coop
                wrote last edited by
                #39

                @hpod16

                Another upvote for your team's efforts then. It is delightful to see how EU presence is expanding on the fediverse since EUVoice and EUVideo and 3-day workshop ActivityPub for Administrations by SocialHub.

                Link Preview Image
                EC - NGI0 Liaison -- Webinars and Workshop April 2021 - SocialHub

                favicon

                (socialhub.activitypub.rocks)

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                • somevegancheeseisok@mastodon.socialS somevegancheeseisok@mastodon.social

                  @hpod16 I just want old reddit, where real humans made whole threads of terrible puns and the experts posted long, detailed, passionate, rambling essays on their subjects. I *loved* that. I love reading those conversations.

                  I miss that.

                  reallylazybear@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  reallylazybear@mastodon.social
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                  #40

                  @SomeVeganCheeseIsOk @hpod16 There's still a bit of that sometimes but mostly it's just become echo chambers where opposing but not really bad ideas are still downvoted to oblivion.

                  Idk if Lemmy is a good alt to reddit. I haven't been there in a while, but I usually only lurk on some subreddits through my redlib instance nowadays but yeah there's no place for good discussions there anymore.

                  Also I forgor to add, there's "AI" presence there... I'm finding a hard time finding them within replies

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                  • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                    @zompetto
                    Yeah, I mean the answer is phrased pretty broadly on purpose. Mastodon isn't the solution for all this, but I like to promote the EU mastodon account whenever I can.

                    (I'm trying to get it into the top 10 most followed (active) accounts on fedi, grinding away over here...)

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                    kyyrypyy@library.love
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                    #41

                    @hpod16 @zompetto
                    What I'd love would be a "facebook for local bussineses" that you don't need an account to view (a bulleting board, if you please); far too many companies still don't have only FB page for opening hours, menus and other information, so as a result it's easier to plan ahead if you're going to big chains.

                    I'd love Friendica to be that, but it's actually more strict about browsing without an account.

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                    • smallcircles@social.coopS smallcircles@social.coop

                      @hpod16

                      Another upvote for your team's efforts then. It is delightful to see how EU presence is expanding on the fediverse since EUVoice and EUVideo and 3-day workshop ActivityPub for Administrations by SocialHub.

                      Link Preview Image
                      EC - NGI0 Liaison -- Webinars and Workshop April 2021 - SocialHub

                      favicon

                      (socialhub.activitypub.rocks)

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                      hpod16@eupolicy.social
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                      #42

                      @smallcircles

                      Aaaaand did you see this sentence in the EU open source strategy published yesterday?
                      Link: https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/library/communication-european-tech-sovereignty-accompanied-eu-open-source-strategy

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                      • reallylazybear@mastodon.socialR reallylazybear@mastodon.social

                        @SomeVeganCheeseIsOk @hpod16 There's still a bit of that sometimes but mostly it's just become echo chambers where opposing but not really bad ideas are still downvoted to oblivion.

                        Idk if Lemmy is a good alt to reddit. I haven't been there in a while, but I usually only lurk on some subreddits through my redlib instance nowadays but yeah there's no place for good discussions there anymore.

                        Also I forgor to add, there's "AI" presence there... I'm finding a hard time finding them within replies

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                        somevegancheeseisok@mastodon.social
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                        #43

                        @reallylazybear @hpod16 I tried lemmy. Sadly, the area I found was mostly "China is the best, we definitely shouldn't be criticized for killing our minorities and crushing dissent".

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                        • vladcampos@mastodon.socialV vladcampos@mastodon.social

                          @DiogoConstantino @hpod16 @w3c I see myself as an Internationalist. That's why I mentioned #ActivityPub, a decentralized protocol that anyone can adopt. Its interconnectivity characteristics makes is local/global. BTW, it's not European. And I agree on the open source, no matter where it's from.

                          But there are limits. For example, the world payment system shouldn't be dependent on Visa/MC which can be shot down by a single country. The same is true for "the Cloud", communications, etc.

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                          diogoconstantino@masto.pt
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                          #44

                          @vladcampos the cloud is several different things, one in popular culture, and the technicall definition.
                          The infrastructure is mostly but not exclusevely on American hands. But the cloud is what I also have here on my home, were I can scale up and down resources on demmand, for systems and applications I selfhost.

                          To see and to treat technology exclusively as if only Big Tech exists is a big error that most Big Tech detractors do, and that almost all journalists do.

                          @hpod16 @w3c

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                          • somevegancheeseisok@mastodon.socialS somevegancheeseisok@mastodon.social

                            @reallylazybear @hpod16 I tried lemmy. Sadly, the area I found was mostly "China is the best, we definitely shouldn't be criticized for killing our minorities and crushing dissent".

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                            @SomeVeganCheeseIsOk @hpod16 Oh... that's really fucking bad.

                            Last time I was there the people were pretty mad and outraged about what Trump was doing and they were some mocking him. That was a year ago and I was on lemmy.world instance

                            Well, to be honest I don't even feel like I belong there so I stopped going.

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                            • christopherstark@mastodon.socialC christopherstark@mastodon.social

                              @luca @zompetto @hpod16 @_elena

                              How "usable" is #friendica by now? Does anybody know?

                              #fediverse #socialmedia

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                              #46

                              @christopherstark

                              People who use it, seems to love it.
                              I'm not that much into formatted posts or groups.
                              Never been on facebook.

                              For example people with a friendica account, could create a topic or local group
                              and you could follow that group from your mastodon account.
                              How cool is #fediverse

                              @informapirata

                              @zompetto @hpod16 @_elena

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                              • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                                I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co?
                                The #EU community managers are at it again with promoting the EU instance on #Mastodon!

                                PS: the community management team (that's my team) are up for an award. Any chance you'd give us a vote? Project 32 on this link: https://enonet.eu/survey/index.php/227332?lang=en

                                pa27@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                pa27@mastodon.social
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                                #47

                                @hpod16 Well ... there's alts to instagram. As for facebook - who need it anyway? I don't know anyone much still on it...

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                                • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                                  I dunno, *can* we build #European alternatives to #Facebook and co?
                                  The #EU community managers are at it again with promoting the EU instance on #Mastodon!

                                  PS: the community management team (that's my team) are up for an award. Any chance you'd give us a vote? Project 32 on this link: https://enonet.eu/survey/index.php/227332?lang=en

                                  haraldki@nrw.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  haraldki@nrw.social
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                                  #48

                                  @hpod16

                                  Facebook? Like .... what?

                                  Would you be able to write down 10 features you feel are provided by facebook?

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                                  • reallylazybear@mastodon.socialR reallylazybear@mastodon.social

                                    @SomeVeganCheeseIsOk @hpod16 Oh... that's really fucking bad.

                                    Last time I was there the people were pretty mad and outraged about what Trump was doing and they were some mocking him. That was a year ago and I was on lemmy.world instance

                                    Well, to be honest I don't even feel like I belong there so I stopped going.

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                                    somevegancheeseisok@mastodon.social
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                                    #49

                                    @reallylazybear @hpod16 ok ... Redlib instance? I am not familiar. I have found reddit to be HEAVILY infested with bots the past year or two. Like, off the charts.

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                                    • christopherstark@mastodon.socialC christopherstark@mastodon.social

                                      @luca @zompetto @hpod16 @_elena

                                      How "usable" is #friendica by now? Does anybody know?

                                      #fediverse #socialmedia

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                                      @christopherstark I'm a big fan of Friendica, but it's clear that, while Friendica has achieved a good level of usability, it isn't and never will be as usable as Mastodon.
                                      Friendica is still the most complete software in the entire Fediverse and deserves a larger community of users and, above all, developers: currently, there are practically three of them maintaining the system!

                                      I recommend trying the Raccoon for Friendica Android app (also usable with Mastodon) because it has significantly improved many of the web version's ergonomic issues. The app is currently still in beta, and I recommend downloading it from GitHub because the one on the app store is still version 0.4 and has some significant flaws.

                                      github.com/LiveFastEatTrashRac…

                                      @zompetto @_elena @luca @hpod16

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                                      • haraldki@nrw.socialH haraldki@nrw.social

                                        @hpod16

                                        Facebook? Like .... what?

                                        Would you be able to write down 10 features you feel are provided by facebook?

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                                        @HaraldKi
                                        In this case it's a rhetorical question, to show that we are promoting Mastodon as an alternative.

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                                        • somevegancheeseisok@mastodon.socialS somevegancheeseisok@mastodon.social

                                          @reallylazybear @hpod16 ok ... Redlib instance? I am not familiar. I have found reddit to be HEAVILY infested with bots the past year or two. Like, off the charts.

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                                          #52

                                          @SomeVeganCheeseIsOk @hpod16 Yeah Redlib's a private front-end for Reddit. Think of it like it's invidious or nitter but for reddit. You can self-host it or use somebody's public instance.

                                          I browse around subreddits without js that way cos the regular reddit website wont load without it.

                                          Yeah there are bots around reddit now. Pretty expected cos I think google bought them a year or two ago and y'know, google's onto "AI" a whole lot.

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                                          Private front-end for Reddit . Contribute to redlib-org/redlib development by creating an account on GitHub.

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