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  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

    "the perfect is the enemy of the good" keeps being a phrase meaning shut up and accept the bad

    pkraus@berlin.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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    @davidgerard as a supervisor of PhD students, trust me, there's such a thing as "it's good enough, just write the thing already" 😉

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    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

      "the perfect is the enemy of the good" keeps being a phrase meaning shut up and accept the bad

      rogerbw@discordian.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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      @davidgerard Particularly when "this works to the absolute minimum extent that our lawyers can win the court cases" is the target quality level and time to move on to the next project.

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      • pkraus@berlin.socialP pkraus@berlin.social

        @davidgerard as a supervisor of PhD students, trust me, there's such a thing as "it's good enough, just write the thing already" 😉

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        @pkraus i must ask: did you seriously think that's anything like what i'm talking about?

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        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

          "the perfect is the enemy of the good" keeps being a phrase meaning shut up and accept the bad

          jripley@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          @davidgerard The replies in that thread, and its spinoff threads, are like someone is crowdsourcing “Give examples of bad faith calls-to-inaction”

          [Edit: More generally, it’s like the “But you live in society” guy popping out in everyone’s mentions]

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          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

            "the perfect is the enemy of the good" keeps being a phrase meaning shut up and accept the bad

            theonedoc@tech.lgbtT This user is from outside of this forum
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            @davidgerard good enough is when a 20 bucks bottle of wine gets you 95% to where that 110 bucks bottle gets you.

            With technology especially code 90% solutions aren't good enough.

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            • jripley@mastodon.socialJ jripley@mastodon.social

              @davidgerard The replies in that thread, and its spinoff threads, are like someone is crowdsourcing “Give examples of bad faith calls-to-inaction”

              [Edit: More generally, it’s like the “But you live in society” guy popping out in everyone’s mentions]

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              @jripley i had about ten threads in mind and mostly on bluesky lol

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              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                "the perfect is the enemy of the good" keeps being a phrase meaning shut up and accept the bad

                decay@gts.todayiwilllaunchmyinfantsonintoorbit.comD This user is from outside of this forum
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                @davidgerard "Don't let the good be the enemy of the literally the second worst possible situation"

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                • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                  @pkraus i must ask: did you seriously think that's anything like what i'm talking about?

                  pkraus@berlin.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @davidgerard well, I'm not a mind reader (or have blue sky or whatnot to see what you refer to), but no, I can imagine plenty of cases where you're technically right on this one.

                  It's just that I really like the phrase and find it useful to get things "out of committee" so to speak. You should come and join a #FAIRdata @NFDI conference some time to find how traumatizing endless looking for perfection perfected to a T can be 😉

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                  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                    "the perfect is the enemy of the good" keeps being a phrase meaning shut up and accept the bad

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                    @davidgerard It also implies that someone is looking for perfection, framing them as entirely unreasonable. I'm not looking for perfection. I'd settle for a lot of things that weren't overrun by fucking fascists. But no, some asshole has to try and shut down the conversation before we even get to addressing that.

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                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                      "the perfect is the enemy of the good" keeps being a phrase meaning shut up and accept the bad

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                      @davidgerard My response is usually "but this isn't even good".

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                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                        "the perfect is the enemy of the good" keeps being a phrase meaning shut up and accept the bad

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                        @davidgerard Which is an unfortunate perversion of how it SHOULD be used, but alas only to be expected in the tech bro slop era…

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                        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                          "the perfect is the enemy of the good" keeps being a phrase meaning shut up and accept the bad

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                          tobinbaker@discuss.systems
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                          @davidgerard ditto "Chesterton's fence", thought-terminating cliche

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                            @davidgerard ditto "Chesterton's fence", thought-terminating cliche

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                            @tobinbaker "perhaps it's *load bearing* obvious fuckery, did you think of *that* huh"

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                            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                              @tobinbaker "perhaps it's *load bearing* obvious fuckery, did you think of *that* huh"

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                              zygmyd@toot.cat
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                              @davidgerard @tobinbaker

                              This is Sunday evening, stop making me think about work.

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                              • T tobinbaker@discuss.systems

                                @davidgerard ditto "Chesterton's fence", thought-terminating cliche

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                                @tobinbaker In what way is Chesterton's Fence “thought-terminating”? @davidgerard

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                                • pkraus@berlin.socialP pkraus@berlin.social

                                  @davidgerard well, I'm not a mind reader (or have blue sky or whatnot to see what you refer to), but no, I can imagine plenty of cases where you're technically right on this one.

                                  It's just that I really like the phrase and find it useful to get things "out of committee" so to speak. You should come and join a #FAIRdata @NFDI conference some time to find how traumatizing endless looking for perfection perfected to a T can be 😉

                                  jannem@fosstodon.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  jannem@fosstodon.org
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                                  @pkraus @davidgerard @NFDI
                                  Exactly. It doesn't have to be perfect. It does have to be done.

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