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  • zachweinersmith@mastodon.socialZ zachweinersmith@mastodon.social

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    @ZachWeinersmith I think A2, but without more clarity around what specifically you mean by "Ai", it's hard to be sure which column I'm in. Are we talking about LLMs only? Machine learning generally? Somewhere in between? Kizuna Ai?

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      @ZachWeinersmith A2

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      • zachweinersmith@mastodon.socialZ zachweinersmith@mastodon.social

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        @ZachWeinersmith somewhere between A1 and A2

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          @ZachWeinersmith A2

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            @ZachWeinersmith@mastodon.social A2

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              @ZachWeinersmith A1
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              • zachweinersmith@mastodon.socialZ zachweinersmith@mastodon.social

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                @ZachWeinersmith Probably A2, but mainly due to the difference between actual AI research and the generative predictive engines currently being marketed as AI.

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                • zachweinersmith@mastodon.socialZ zachweinersmith@mastodon.social

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                  @ZachWeinersmith Depending on our definitions of "AI" and "work", my answer varies. If we're talking about the current crop of Gen AI tools, and by "work" we mean something like "reliably delivers useful results when used in the intended way" - A1, easy.

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                    @ZachWeinersmith A3.

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                      @ZachWeinersmith A2

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                        @ZachWeinersmith A2

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                          @ZachWeinersmith A2.

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                            @ZachWeinersmith

                            A1 - Cherry-picked results don't mean "working", even if it's the chatbot framework doing the cherry picking.

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                              @ZachWeinersmith A2

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                                @ZachWeinersmith A2

                                Assuming by „AI“, you mean generative models such as LLMs and image generators.

                                Imho, the technology _is_ impressive but very overhyped. The harm to society and environment is greater than its usefulness, by far.

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                                  @ZachWeinersmith

                                  Between A1 and A2.

                                  First of all, AI doesn't exist and it was recently mathematically proven that what we have now, machine learning / LLMs, can NEVER grow into full AIs.

                                  What we have now is good a pattern recognition. You can feed it all of the drugs used to fight a certain disease, their effectiveness, their side effects, etc. and it can spit out other drugs that would be useful targets for study.

                                  What we have would fit into A2. What we are being sold is a scam.

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                                    @ZachWeinersmith@mastodon.social A1, maybe A2 but I'm somewhat skeptical

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                                      @ZachWeinersmith A1

                                      The bubble can't burst too soon.

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                                      • zachweinersmith@mastodon.socialZ zachweinersmith@mastodon.social

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                                        I'll say A2

                                        (It seems I'm not the only one)

                                        @ZachWeinersmith

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                                        • zachweinersmith@mastodon.socialZ zachweinersmith@mastodon.social

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                                          @ZachWeinersmith AI is a vastly overloaded term, but I assume that we’re focusing on LLMs. For LLMs, I’m in the A2 camp, but hold A1leanings.
                                          For classifiers and other classical machine learning methods, C3 except that they’re not new. One also still has to be aware of input biases and “empiricism washing” or whatever where people pretend because you’ve used a mathematical tool that the results are morally clean and correct.

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