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Hey @sunkat2048, thanks for the follow request!

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  • dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD dzwiedziu@mastodon.social

    @dan
    The only thing cooler would be a CT scan of it to have a framed cross-section.

    @alice

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    @dzwiedziu @alice I have some others that are cut away so you can see the layers. This is a segment of TAT-1, the first transatlantic voice cable (1955/1956).

    Layers from inside to outside:
    - a copper wire wrapped in copper tape
    - a thick layer of polyethlene (newfangled at the time!) serving as a dielectric
    - a wrap of copper tape for the return path
    - layers of cloth tape, steel wires, and jute fibers to serve as armor

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    • dan@discuss.systemsD dan@discuss.systems

      @dzwiedziu @alice I have some others that are cut away so you can see the layers. This is a segment of TAT-1, the first transatlantic voice cable (1955/1956).

      Layers from inside to outside:
      - a copper wire wrapped in copper tape
      - a thick layer of polyethlene (newfangled at the time!) serving as a dielectric
      - a wrap of copper tape for the return path
      - layers of cloth tape, steel wires, and jute fibers to serve as armor

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      @dan
      Well, 75 years and I'm still in ave that it would just lie on thousands of km of oceanic floor and work.

      @alice

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      • dan@discuss.systemsD dan@discuss.systems

        @dzwiedziu @alice I have some others that are cut away so you can see the layers. This is a segment of TAT-1, the first transatlantic voice cable (1955/1956).

        Layers from inside to outside:
        - a copper wire wrapped in copper tape
        - a thick layer of polyethlene (newfangled at the time!) serving as a dielectric
        - a wrap of copper tape for the return path
        - layers of cloth tape, steel wires, and jute fibers to serve as armor

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        @dan @dzwiedziu @alice That's actually really interesting! Do you know more about the return path? It seems strange to me that it seemingly uses less material for conducting the signal than the main wire ๐Ÿค”

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        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

          @hacktor I certainly do! https://lgbtqia.space/@alice/115609275112210873

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          @alice ๐Ÿ‘

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          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

            Hey @sunkat2048, thanks for the follow request! Unfortunately there's not enough vibe on your profile to check, so...

            What's one of the coolest things you own?

            I have a puzzle lockbox that was handmade by one of my friends, then delivered from Australia by another friend. It has three weird locks on it, one of which was designed and built by said friend, and the bitting on the key is shaped like my name. It's pretty fucking cool. I also have an amtique 8-lever padlock that's stamped with "Mastodon" from circa the late 1800s.

            #CAPTCHAlice

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            @alice @sunkat2048

            My bassoon!

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            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

              Hey @sunkat2048, thanks for the follow request! Unfortunately there's not enough vibe on your profile to check, so...

              What's one of the coolest things you own?

              I have a puzzle lockbox that was handmade by one of my friends, then delivered from Australia by another friend. It has three weird locks on it, one of which was designed and built by said friend, and the bitting on the key is shaped like my name. It's pretty fucking cool. I also have an amtique 8-lever padlock that's stamped with "Mastodon" from circa the late 1800s.

              #CAPTCHAlice

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              @alice this hand plane is certainly the oldest human made thing I own, being from about 1890

              I have some things I think are even cooler but I keep this just because it feels good to have something from so long ago

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              • dan@discuss.systemsD dan@discuss.systems

                @dzwiedziu @alice I have some others that are cut away so you can see the layers. This is a segment of TAT-1, the first transatlantic voice cable (1955/1956).

                Layers from inside to outside:
                - a copper wire wrapped in copper tape
                - a thick layer of polyethlene (newfangled at the time!) serving as a dielectric
                - a wrap of copper tape for the return path
                - layers of cloth tape, steel wires, and jute fibers to serve as armor

                Link Preview Image
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                @dan @dzwiedziu @alice Were these rings(?) added just to protect the ends of the cut-away, or are they something else?

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                • dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD dzwiedziu@mastodon.social

                  @dan
                  Well, 75 years and I'm still in ave that it would just lie on thousands of km of oceanic floor and work.

                  @alice

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                  @dzwiedziu @dan @alice Especially in the 1850s! Before reading more about undersea cables, I would've said they were invented in like... 1920. It's amazing that they go back so much further.

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                  • petherfile@beige.partyP petherfile@beige.party

                    @alice @sunkat2048

                    My bassoon!

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                    @petherfile pics?

                    @sunkat2048

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                    • recursive@hachyderm.ioR recursive@hachyderm.io

                      @alice this hand plane is certainly the oldest human made thing I own, being from about 1890

                      I have some things I think are even cooler but I keep this just because it feels good to have something from so long ago

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                      @recursive @alice Huh, I wonder if any of my second-hand hand-planes are that old. The oldest thing that I have with an actual date on this is silver dollar from 1878 that is exactly 100 years older than I am.

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                      • numerfolt@kirche.socialN numerfolt@kirche.social

                        @dan @dzwiedziu @alice That's actually really interesting! Do you know more about the return path? It seems strange to me that it seemingly uses less material for conducting the signal than the main wire ๐Ÿค”

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                        @Numerfolt @dzwiedziu @alice I think it's a combination of two things:

                        1) most of the current is carried in the outer skin of the conductor (but don't ask me to explain why, physics class was a long time ago!)

                        2) it might actually be the same amount of material. Wrapped around the much larger insulator, it doesn't take a very thick layer to make up the same cross-sectional area.

                        You can see this if you cut a regular household coax cable open, too... the return conductor is a thin braid around the cable.

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                        • recursive@hachyderm.ioR recursive@hachyderm.io

                          @alice this hand plane is certainly the oldest human made thing I own, being from about 1890

                          I have some things I think are even cooler but I keep this just because it feels good to have something from so long ago

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                          @recursive @alice That's lovely. Nice to see something like that kept carefully, in clean and usable condition. It really emphasises how much it's not just some disposable junk.

                          My grandfather gave me a plane decades ago that isn't old, but which I have all sorts of feelings about:
                          https://toroid.org/restoring-a-number-4-plane

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                          • amenonsen@flipping.rocksA amenonsen@flipping.rocks

                            @dan @dzwiedziu @alice Were these rings(?) added just to protect the ends of the cut-away, or are they something else?

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                            @amenonsen @dzwiedziu @alice I would assume they're just there to keep it from unraveling

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                            • theorangetheme@en.osm.townT theorangetheme@en.osm.town

                              @dzwiedziu @dan @alice Especially in the 1850s! Before reading more about undersea cables, I would've said they were invented in like... 1920. It's amazing that they go back so much further.

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                              @theorangetheme @dzwiedziu @alice Well, I didn't say the original 1858 cable was a *good* one. ๐Ÿ™‚

                              The first telegram it carried was a 98-word congratulatory note from Queen Victoria to James Buchanan. It took 16 hours to transmit.

                              It only lasted a couple months before one of the engineers, hoping to get a better signal, cranked the voltage way up and completely fried the cable.

                              Long undersea cables weren't really practical until they figured out how to add and power repeaters along the line, originally using miniature tube amps, closer to the 1950s.

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                              • recursive@hachyderm.ioR recursive@hachyderm.io

                                @alice this hand plane is certainly the oldest human made thing I own, being from about 1890

                                I have some things I think are even cooler but I keep this just because it feels good to have something from so long ago

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                                @recursive @alice They make great pencil sharpeners too

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                                • dan@discuss.systemsD dan@discuss.systems

                                  @theorangetheme @dzwiedziu @alice Well, I didn't say the original 1858 cable was a *good* one. ๐Ÿ™‚

                                  The first telegram it carried was a 98-word congratulatory note from Queen Victoria to James Buchanan. It took 16 hours to transmit.

                                  It only lasted a couple months before one of the engineers, hoping to get a better signal, cranked the voltage way up and completely fried the cable.

                                  Long undersea cables weren't really practical until they figured out how to add and power repeaters along the line, originally using miniature tube amps, closer to the 1950s.

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                                  @dan @dzwiedziu @alice Undersea tube amps! That's so cool. Thanks for the history lesson. ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                    Hey @sunkat2048, thanks for the follow request! Unfortunately there's not enough vibe on your profile to check, so...

                                    What's one of the coolest things you own?

                                    I have a puzzle lockbox that was handmade by one of my friends, then delivered from Australia by another friend. It has three weird locks on it, one of which was designed and built by said friend, and the bitting on the key is shaped like my name. It's pretty fucking cool. I also have an amtique 8-lever padlock that's stamped with "Mastodon" from circa the late 1800s.

                                    #CAPTCHAlice

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                                    @alice
                                    Gus.
                                    @sunkat2048@mastodon.social

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                                    • dan@discuss.systemsD dan@discuss.systems

                                      @alice I have a box of obsolete cables in my closet like everyone else, except mine are just a tad more obsolete than most

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                                      @dan @alice Oh wow, that cable is way shorter than expected. I guess the world really was smaller back then.

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                                      • bluewitchgwen@girlcock.clubB bluewitchgwen@girlcock.club

                                        @alice
                                        Gus.
                                        @sunkat2048@mastodon.social

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                                        @alice (the extent to which one can own a Gus is a matter of some debate; Gus, for example, considers himself my owner.)

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                                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                          Hey @sunkat2048, thanks for the follow request! Unfortunately there's not enough vibe on your profile to check, so...

                                          What's one of the coolest things you own?

                                          I have a puzzle lockbox that was handmade by one of my friends, then delivered from Australia by another friend. It has three weird locks on it, one of which was designed and built by said friend, and the bitting on the key is shaped like my name. It's pretty fucking cool. I also have an amtique 8-lever padlock that's stamped with "Mastodon" from circa the late 1800s.

                                          #CAPTCHAlice

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                                          @alice
                                          I think for me it's this. My father in law once gave my wife and me this old kitchen knife of his to take for camping. He had no use for it anymore. Turns out it was a wedding gift his grandparents received. Sadly he passed away two years ago. He was born in 1945 and at this point I have no idea when his grandparens married but I guess it was somewhere around 1900 or 18something. Which makes this knife at least 125 years old.

                                          I cleaned the blade (very rusty and still spotty), oiled the grip, sharpened the edge with a whetstone and put it on our knife holder for daily usage. It doesn't like to stay wet but boy, it's the fucking sharpest thing in our kitchen!
                                          @sunkat2048

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