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Eloquence 64-bit for NVDA now supports a 44 kHz mode.

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  • jamminjerry@mastodon.stickbear.meJ jamminjerry@mastodon.stickbear.me

    @amir and there we go. that fixed it. I had to remove the IBM tts, and the IBM libraries as well. now eloquence is working again.

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    @JamminJerry Great! Try the 44 kHZ mode, and I guess you'll like its clarity.

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    • amir@dragonscave.spaceA amir@dragonscave.space

      @JamminJerry Great! Try the 44 kHZ mode, and I guess you'll like its clarity.

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      @amir it is pretty clear, but there is still a pop on the word food on a file name. it is a very interesting one, however the pop is a bit less than it was before. it is still popping on the o it looks like. but like I said, it is a little bit better.

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      • jamminjerry@mastodon.stickbear.meJ jamminjerry@mastodon.stickbear.me

        @amir it is pretty clear, but there is still a pop on the word food on a file name. it is a very interesting one, however the pop is a bit less than it was before. it is still popping on the o it looks like. but like I said, it is a little bit better.

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        @JamminJerry I don't have any of that popping to be honest, but I had lots of pops with IBMTTS's 22 kHZ mode. Even the word regedit, when read alone, could generate a pop there.

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        • jamminjerry@mastodon.stickbear.meJ jamminjerry@mastodon.stickbear.me

          @amir it is pretty clear, but there is still a pop on the word food on a file name. it is a very interesting one, however the pop is a bit less than it was before. it is still popping on the o it looks like. but like I said, it is a little bit better.

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          munchkinbear@mastodon.stickbear.me
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          @JamminJerry @amir it's more of a click, not a pop. lol.

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          • amir@dragonscave.spaceA amir@dragonscave.space

            @JamminJerry I don't have any of that popping to be honest, but I had lots of pops with IBMTTS's 22 kHZ mode. Even the word regedit, when read alone, could generate a pop there.

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            @amir the strange thing is I never ever had the pops on the IBM tts I was using, but I will say I like the pauses on the eloquence one a bit better than the IBM one. smile.

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              @JamminJerry @amir it's more of a click, not a pop. lol.

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              @munchkinbear @amir if you tyhpe the letter o and back space over it, or just highlight it, you hear the pop on the letter o.

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              • M munchkinbear@mastodon.stickbear.me

                @JamminJerry @amir it's more of a click, not a pop. lol.

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                @munchkinbear @amir pop, click, tomato tomatoe. lol.

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                • jamminjerry@mastodon.stickbear.meJ jamminjerry@mastodon.stickbear.me

                  @amir the strange thing is I never ever had the pops on the IBM tts I was using, but I will say I like the pauses on the eloquence one a bit better than the IBM one. smile.

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                  @JamminJerry @amir for me, the pauses are what is keeping me to ibm. if i could have less pauses on eloc 64 i'd switch to it.

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                    @JamminJerry @amir for me, the pauses are what is keeping me to ibm. if i could have less pauses on eloc 64 i'd switch to it.

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                    @Aryan @amir I think there is a think about shortening the pauses in there. mine is set to never, as I like the pauses, especially when I am reading things like harry potter fan fics.

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                    • amir@dragonscave.spaceA amir@dragonscave.space

                      Eloquence 64-bit for NVDA now supports a 44 kHz mode. It’s currently in preview and still being fine-tuned.
                      You can use the Sample Rate combo box in the Voices dialog to increase the default rate from 11 kHz to 44 kHz for clearer speech.
                      Unlike the 22 kHz mode in IBMTTS and ViaVoice, this mode doesn’t introduce pops, jitters, or unexpected voice resets.
                      Try the 16.1 upsampling preview release:
                      https://github.com/hozosch/eloquence_64/releases/tag/upsampling_preview
                      For more on the upsampling preview and author discussions check here:
                      https://github.com/fastfinge/eloquence_64/issues/88#issuecomment-4091293709

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                      @amir Just installed it and it works without issue for me. Thanks for posting the link.

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                      • amir@dragonscave.spaceA amir@dragonscave.space

                        Eloquence 64-bit for NVDA now supports a 44 kHz mode. It’s currently in preview and still being fine-tuned.
                        You can use the Sample Rate combo box in the Voices dialog to increase the default rate from 11 kHz to 44 kHz for clearer speech.
                        Unlike the 22 kHz mode in IBMTTS and ViaVoice, this mode doesn’t introduce pops, jitters, or unexpected voice resets.
                        Try the 16.1 upsampling preview release:
                        https://github.com/hozosch/eloquence_64/releases/tag/upsampling_preview
                        For more on the upsampling preview and author discussions check here:
                        https://github.com/fastfinge/eloquence_64/issues/88#issuecomment-4091293709

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                        @amir Do you think you could attach a demo of this here? It'd be appreciated, as I neither have the addon, nor that newest nvda version which is still in beta isn't it?

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                          @JamminJerry @amir for me, the pauses are what is keeping me to ibm. if i could have less pauses on eloc 64 i'd switch to it.

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                          @Aryan @JamminJerry But Eloq 64 now has the very same pauses as IBMTTS. IBMTTS has 3, and Eloq 64 has the very same 3 pause-related settings.

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                            @amir Do you think you could attach a demo of this here? It'd be appreciated, as I neither have the addon, nor that newest nvda version which is still in beta isn't it?

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                            @McOi I'd very much like to, but my super-crappy, war-affected internet access doesn't allow me to do it.

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                            • somegregariousdude@dragonscave.spaceS somegregariousdude@dragonscave.space

                              @amir Just installed it and it works without issue for me. Thanks for posting the link.

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                              @somegregariousdude Anytime.

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                              • amir@dragonscave.spaceA amir@dragonscave.space

                                Eloquence 64-bit for NVDA now supports a 44 kHz mode. It’s currently in preview and still being fine-tuned.
                                You can use the Sample Rate combo box in the Voices dialog to increase the default rate from 11 kHz to 44 kHz for clearer speech.
                                Unlike the 22 kHz mode in IBMTTS and ViaVoice, this mode doesn’t introduce pops, jitters, or unexpected voice resets.
                                Try the 16.1 upsampling preview release:
                                https://github.com/hozosch/eloquence_64/releases/tag/upsampling_preview
                                For more on the upsampling preview and author discussions check here:
                                https://github.com/fastfinge/eloquence_64/issues/88#issuecomment-4091293709

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                                adkurz@social.tchncs.de
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                                @amir I think that the increased sample rate of 44.1 kHz sounds pretty terrible. The sibilants still sound dull, but with annoying overtones.

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                                  @amir I think that the increased sample rate of 44.1 kHz sounds pretty terrible. The sibilants still sound dull, but with annoying overtones.

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                                  @adkurz Hmm. What to say other than TTS is subjective. I really like this 44 kHZ mode, and didn't like the so-called muddiness of the 22 kHZ mode in IBMTTS/ ViaVoice along with its clicks.

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                                  • amir@dragonscave.spaceA amir@dragonscave.space

                                    @adkurz Hmm. What to say other than TTS is subjective. I really like this 44 kHZ mode, and didn't like the so-called muddiness of the 22 kHZ mode in IBMTTS/ ViaVoice along with its clicks.

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                                    @amir I have also clack sounds on the new mode. But I don't like the eloquence at all, I am one of the few fans of ESpeak. 😀

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                                      @amir I have also clack sounds on the new mode. But I don't like the eloquence at all, I am one of the few fans of ESpeak. 😀

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                                      @adkurz Ah, I see. I use eSpeak-NG just Persian as I have no viable choices. I don't like it for other languages and find its lack of stress markers horrible.

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                                      • amir@dragonscave.spaceA amir@dragonscave.space

                                        @adkurz Ah, I see. I use eSpeak-NG just Persian as I have no viable choices. I don't like it for other languages and find its lack of stress markers horrible.

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                                        @amir I use it for german. The most of my friends don't like it, but after using NVDA for many years, it like it. It's fast, don't clicks and is very understandable, at least for me.

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                                        • amir@dragonscave.spaceA amir@dragonscave.space

                                          @Aryan @JamminJerry But Eloq 64 now has the very same pauses as IBMTTS. IBMTTS has 3, and Eloq 64 has the very same 3 pause-related settings.

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                                          @amir @Aryan I think the pauses sound better on eloquence though. if you leave the shorten pauses to never the pauses are a bit longer than the IBM one.

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