Eloquence 64-bit for NVDA now supports a 44 kHz mode.
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@amir Oh? What's burdensome about it besides the engine actually trying to predicate on supported versions? If you try to force something that doesn't support it you get fast forward speech.
@x0 Also IBMTTS has issues with my own add-on, Typing & Spelling Rate, whereas these have been fixed in Eloquence 64-bit. If you use my add-on and spell something via a higher rate for spelling, or type via a higher rate for typing, IBMTTS's speech rate won't be decreased for other non-spelling and non-typing tasks.
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@x0 Also IBMTTS has issues with my own add-on, Typing & Spelling Rate, whereas these have been fixed in Eloquence 64-bit. If you use my add-on and spell something via a higher rate for spelling, or type via a higher rate for typing, IBMTTS's speech rate won't be decreased for other non-spelling and non-typing tasks.
@amir Huh. Before the bridge? That's odd, I knew it had issues with indexing but I thought without the bridge embedded commands worked just fine, after all MathML does it all the time.
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@amir actually, it does sounds a lot clearer. better thn I expected.
@bmoore123 Yeah I was also surprised. And the author wants to add another slider for more fine-tuning.
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@amir Huh. Before the bridge? That's odd, I knew it had issues with indexing but I thought without the bridge embedded commands worked just fine, after all MathML does it all the time.
@x0 Nope. it doesn't, I tested the latest IBMTTS preview release.
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@bmoore123 @amir Problem is, you'll never improve audio quality by upsampling.
@Bruce @bmoore123 @amir I think whether it is an improvement or not depends on how you look at it. Objectively speaking, the upsampler can't improve anything because it can't intellligently add missing content. But its aliasing artifacts (which are in the high frequencies) makes it sound better to some people. Not knocking the people who like it btw, I like it as much as anyone else. I just don't want people thinking of it as some modern quality enhancement voodoo, because it really isn't. It's a decades-old artifact that finally got implemented in an Eloquence add-on for people who like it.
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@Bruce @bmoore123 @amir I think whether it is an improvement or not depends on how you look at it. Objectively speaking, the upsampler can't improve anything because it can't intellligently add missing content. But its aliasing artifacts (which are in the high frequencies) makes it sound better to some people. Not knocking the people who like it btw, I like it as much as anyone else. I just don't want people thinking of it as some modern quality enhancement voodoo, because it really isn't. It's a decades-old artifact that finally got implemented in an Eloquence add-on for people who like it.
@musicalman @Bruce @bmoore123 Right. Of course, no one was talking about modern quality enhancements. It improves speech/ audio quality like the 22 kHZ mode in IBMTTS for ViaVoice, or even better than that I'd say.
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Eloquence 64-bit for NVDA now supports a 44 kHz mode. It’s currently in preview and still being fine-tuned.
You can use the Sample Rate combo box in the Voices dialog to increase the default rate from 11 kHz to 44 kHz for clearer speech.
Unlike the 22 kHz mode in IBMTTS and ViaVoice, this mode doesn’t introduce pops, jitters, or unexpected voice resets.
Try the 16.1 upsampling preview release:
https://github.com/hozosch/eloquence_64/releases/tag/upsampling_preview
For more on the upsampling preview and author discussions check here:
https://github.com/fastfinge/eloquence_64/issues/88#issuecomment-4091293709@amir This has the hiss the Eloquence on the iPhone has. It is particular Noticeable on words with s in them. I did hear some popping. but the hiss is very noticeable.
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@amir This has the hiss the Eloquence on the iPhone has. It is particular Noticeable on words with s in them. I did hear some popping. but the hiss is very noticeable.
@Dennislong82 But I don't notice the hiss with Eloquence 64-bit at all, even with headphones. And yes, I do have the hiss on the iPhone. Perhaps it is speaker/ CPU-specific.
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Eloquence 64-bit for NVDA now supports a 44 kHz mode. It’s currently in preview and still being fine-tuned.
You can use the Sample Rate combo box in the Voices dialog to increase the default rate from 11 kHz to 44 kHz for clearer speech.
Unlike the 22 kHz mode in IBMTTS and ViaVoice, this mode doesn’t introduce pops, jitters, or unexpected voice resets.
Try the 16.1 upsampling preview release:
https://github.com/hozosch/eloquence_64/releases/tag/upsampling_preview
For more on the upsampling preview and author discussions check here:
https://github.com/fastfinge/eloquence_64/issues/88#issuecomment-4091293709@amir I just tried installing this, and it broke my eloquence so bad that when NVDA restarted, it switched to the windows one core voices. when I try to switch back to eloquence, I get this error.
Synthesizer Error dialog Could not load the eloquence synthesizer.
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@amir I just tried installing this, and it broke my eloquence so bad that when NVDA restarted, it switched to the windows one core voices. when I try to switch back to eloquence, I get this error.
Synthesizer Error dialog Could not load the eloquence synthesizer.
@JamminJerry Try uninstalling your Eloquence add-on, restarting NVDA, and reinstalling the newer one.
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@JamminJerry Try uninstalling your Eloquence add-on, restarting NVDA, and reinstalling the newer one.
@amir I can do that.
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@JamminJerry Try uninstalling your Eloquence add-on, restarting NVDA, and reinstalling the newer one.
@amir unfortunitly that didn't work either.
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@JamminJerry Try uninstalling your Eloquence add-on, restarting NVDA, and reinstalling the newer one.
@amir I wonder if the IBM tts is interfearing with it somehow? it is the only thing I can think of at this point.
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@amir I wonder if the IBM tts is interfearing with it somehow? it is the only thing I can think of at this point.
@JamminJerry @amir Probably. disable it.
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@amir I wonder if the IBM tts is interfearing with it somehow? it is the only thing I can think of at this point.
@JamminJerry Ah, it sure does. They can't be enabled at the same time.
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@JamminJerry Ah, it sure does. They can't be enabled at the same time.
@amir actually? until I tried using this newest version, they could. so something in this newest eloquence makes them not like each other.
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@JamminJerry Ah, it sure does. They can't be enabled at the same time.
@amir and there we go. that fixed it. I had to remove the IBM tts, and the IBM libraries as well. now eloquence is working again.
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@amir actually? until I tried using this newest version, they could. so something in this newest eloquence makes them not like each other.
@JamminJerry They have a long history of not liking one another - haha! I'm not using IBMTTS anyway as it has issues with one of my add-ons, and the 44 kHZ in Eloquence sounds far superior.
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@amir and there we go. that fixed it. I had to remove the IBM tts, and the IBM libraries as well. now eloquence is working again.
@JamminJerry Great! Try the 44 kHZ mode, and I guess you'll like its clarity.
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@JamminJerry Great! Try the 44 kHZ mode, and I guess you'll like its clarity.
@amir it is pretty clear, but there is still a pop on the word food on a file name. it is a very interesting one, however the pop is a bit less than it was before. it is still popping on the o it looks like. but like I said, it is a little bit better.
