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Day one with the Galaxy Z Fold 7.

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  • F fireborn@dragonscave.space

    @xogium Right? I hope tomorrow is better. Maybe I just got incredibly unlucky.

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    @fireborn Maybe... But this being samsung, I honestly doubt it.

    Your post makes me incredibly glad I never, ever went to samsung. That, plus all the failure over the years I kept reading about including the loss of speech over bluetooth during phone calls and the broken explore by touch if you had the display hidden.

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      @fireborn Maybe... But this being samsung, I honestly doubt it.

      Your post makes me incredibly glad I never, ever went to samsung. That, plus all the failure over the years I kept reading about including the loss of speech over bluetooth during phone calls and the broken explore by touch if you had the display hidden.

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      @xogium Oh yeah, I had the broken explore by touch problem, but that was my fault for enabling without doing updates when I knew the bug existed.

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      • F fireborn@dragonscave.space

        @xogium Oh yeah, I had the broken explore by touch problem, but that was my fault for enabling without doing updates when I knew the bug existed.

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        @fireborn Sure but what I mean is, someone who doesn't know... Like a beginner? Just... Good god.

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          @fireborn Sure but what I mean is, someone who doesn't know... Like a beginner? Just... Good god.

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          @fireborn Honestly the worst I've ever had with my iphone SE 3rd gen in nearly 5 years of usage is, it froze on me. Only twice. Twice, in almost 5 years. Thati s nothing compared to the worst I've seen from other manufacturers.

          Was it scary? Sure was. The home button was still reacting but nothing else was going on, no tts, no sound, no haptics from VO. I had to force reboot it. But it never happened again.

          I wouldn't trust android to not keep crashing like that if it did. That being said I believe VO also has no fallback if the system can't talk, exactly like talkback. I might be wrong though?

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            @fireborn Honestly the worst I've ever had with my iphone SE 3rd gen in nearly 5 years of usage is, it froze on me. Only twice. Twice, in almost 5 years. Thati s nothing compared to the worst I've seen from other manufacturers.

            Was it scary? Sure was. The home button was still reacting but nothing else was going on, no tts, no sound, no haptics from VO. I had to force reboot it. But it never happened again.

            I wouldn't trust android to not keep crashing like that if it did. That being said I believe VO also has no fallback if the system can't talk, exactly like talkback. I might be wrong though?

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            fireborn@dragonscave.space
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            @xogium VO doesn't have a fallback as such, but you can add different voices from other engines to your voice rotor which you can navigate to in most cases.

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            • xogium@tech.lgbtX xogium@tech.lgbt

              @fireborn Sure but what I mean is, someone who doesn't know... Like a beginner? Just... Good god.

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              @xogium @fireborn Yeah this is why the general rule is just stick with Pixel if you are a blind android user, never run across any more issues than I had when I still could see.

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              • F fireborn@dragonscave.space

                @xogium Oh yeah, I had the broken explore by touch problem, but that was my fault for enabling without doing updates when I knew the bug existed.

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                @fireborn @xogium Have Samsung fixed the issue where you'll just be bricked if you enable screen curtain

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                • dhamlinmusic@dragonscave.spaceD dhamlinmusic@dragonscave.space

                  @fireborn @xogium Have Samsung fixed the issue where you'll just be bricked if you enable screen curtain

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                  @dhamlinmusic @xogium Yes, appears so. I have screen dimmed right now and it's not doing anything stupid.

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                  • F fireborn@dragonscave.space

                    @dhamlinmusic @xogium Yes, appears so. I have screen dimmed right now and it's not doing anything stupid.

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                    @fireborn @xogium Ok cause even by Samsung standards that was an impressive issue.

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                    • F fireborn@dragonscave.space

                      Day one with the Galaxy Z Fold 7. Setup was a disaster. Smart Switch didn't. TalkBack went silent. Samsung installed everything I told it not to.

                      This is why nobody upgrades their Android phone.

                      Galaxy Z Fold Seven Day One: The Fold Has Arrived. Setup Was A Disaster. This Is Why No One Upgrades Their Android Phone. โ€” fireborn

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                      #Samsung #GalaxyZFold7 #Android #TalkBack #Accessibility #Blind #tech #writing #blog #reviews

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                      @fireborn Out of curiosity, What LLM helped you compose this? Editing to be clear that I'm not against AI writing at all, but this is pretty obvious and I'm curious on your tools.

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                      • T thequinbox@dragonscave.space

                        @fireborn Out of curiosity, What LLM helped you compose this? Editing to be clear that I'm not against AI writing at all, but this is pretty obvious and I'm curious on your tools.

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                        @TheQuinbox @fireborn Claude. definitely Claude, though I can't tell what version

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                        • dhamlinmusic@dragonscave.spaceD dhamlinmusic@dragonscave.space

                          @fireborn @xogium Have Samsung fixed the issue where you'll just be bricked if you enable screen curtain

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                          @dhamlinmusic @fireborn @xogium yep

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                          • F fireborn@dragonscave.space

                            Day one with the Galaxy Z Fold 7. Setup was a disaster. Smart Switch didn't. TalkBack went silent. Samsung installed everything I told it not to.

                            This is why nobody upgrades their Android phone.

                            Galaxy Z Fold Seven Day One: The Fold Has Arrived. Setup Was A Disaster. This Is Why No One Upgrades Their Android Phone. โ€” fireborn

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                            #Samsung #GalaxyZFold7 #Android #TalkBack #Accessibility #Blind #tech #writing #blog #reviews

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                            @fireborn oh god, glad you were able to figure it out in the end, idk why you had all of those issues, for me when switching from my S20 to the S23+ everything worked, it seems you were just super unlucky

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                            • F fireborn@dragonscave.space

                              Day one with the Galaxy Z Fold 7. Setup was a disaster. Smart Switch didn't. TalkBack went silent. Samsung installed everything I told it not to.

                              This is why nobody upgrades their Android phone.

                              Galaxy Z Fold Seven Day One: The Fold Has Arrived. Setup Was A Disaster. This Is Why No One Upgrades Their Android Phone. โ€” fireborn

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                              #Samsung #GalaxyZFold7 #Android #TalkBack #Accessibility #Blind #tech #writing #blog #reviews

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                              @x0 @fireborn I'm going to break your heart but... Maybe I'll purchase a Galaxy S26Ultra for my birthday! You, on the other hand, go for the only option. Motorola with a GrapheneOS config installed and... goes the ragtime!

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                              • F fireborn@dragonscave.space

                                Day one with the Galaxy Z Fold 7. Setup was a disaster. Smart Switch didn't. TalkBack went silent. Samsung installed everything I told it not to.

                                This is why nobody upgrades their Android phone.

                                Galaxy Z Fold Seven Day One: The Fold Has Arrived. Setup Was A Disaster. This Is Why No One Upgrades Their Android Phone. โ€” fireborn

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                                #Samsung #GalaxyZFold7 #Android #TalkBack #Accessibility #Blind #tech #writing #blog #reviews

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                                @fireborn Samsung ships all their fold devices unfolded.
                                I think the reason is actually that they don't know how long those devices will be in the box before someone unboxes them.
                                If they ship it folded, it will have a bigger crease the first time a user unboxes it. And I have noticed on my own fold that some glue on the inside of the crease loosens up with time, which causes a sound when you tap there on the display. That might happen sooner if the device ships unfolded.

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                                • dhamlinmusic@dragonscave.spaceD dhamlinmusic@dragonscave.space

                                  @xogium @fireborn Yeah this is why the general rule is just stick with Pixel if you are a blind android user, never run across any more issues than I had when I still could see.

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                                  @dhamlinmusic @xogium @fireborn Yup, this. Was about to say, I wonder if the Pixel fold would've given you similar issues.

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                                  • J jonathan859@someplace.social

                                    @dhamlinmusic @xogium @fireborn Yup, this. Was about to say, I wonder if the Pixel fold would've given you similar issues.

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                                    @jonathan859 @dhamlinmusic @xogium aI couldn't say if it would or not with any degree of certainty. A lot of this seems to be failures on Samsung's part, but that wouldn't change the fundimental state of things, that a foldable is still a foldable

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                                    • T thequinbox@dragonscave.space

                                      @fireborn Out of curiosity, What LLM helped you compose this? Editing to be clear that I'm not against AI writing at all, but this is pretty obvious and I'm curious on your tools.

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                                      @TheQuinbox I used Claude 4.6 to grammer check and typo check, mostly because I was wviting on my phone. I did notice it stripped out my seperators, which I'm not thrilled about and clearly didn't proof read hard enough.

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                                      • F fireborn@dragonscave.space

                                        @TheQuinbox I used Claude 4.6 to grammer check and typo check, mostly because I was wviting on my phone. I did notice it stripped out my seperators, which I'm not thrilled about and clearly didn't proof read hard enough.

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                                        @fireborn @TheQuinbox huh. the whole flow feels very Claude, but that might just be convergence between your writing style and Claude's

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                                        • freya@chaosfem.twF freya@chaosfem.tw

                                          @fireborn @TheQuinbox huh. the whole flow feels very Claude, but that might just be convergence between your writing style and Claude's

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                                          @freya @TheQuinbox I was so incredibly pissed off at all these purely fundimental issues that I was experiencing. I was also tought, long before the advent of AI, that if you want to make a point and really make it understood, you lead with any possible counters or deflections.

                                          I used to be far worse at appearing like an LLM, overuse of bold, ithealic, and blockquotes.

                                          interesting observations though; maybe I should change up how I write to make people less wary of engaging with it.

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