*5 years of bullshit, removing features and implementing spyware*

[pj@donotsta.re]

5 years of bullshit, removing features and implementing spyware

we're loosing users

panick

[elly@donotsta.re]

@pj 5 years? This started with Windows 10 in 2015... 11 years ago.

[pj@donotsta.re]

@elly what has started? AI and recall wasn't a thing 11 years ago and they didn't remove any UI functionality in Windows 10 afaik (maybe except old msthemes)

[elly@donotsta.re]

@pj yes, but pushing spyware, online accounts/ads started in Win 10. I remember when people found that beta builds of Windows 10 were taking periodic screenshots of your desktop and uploading them to microsoft's servers, at some point it even had a keylogger that sent your keyboard inputs as well.

Somehow... people completely forgot that happened and attributed it to beta builds but it still wasn't okay

[pj@donotsta.re]

> online accounts/ads started in Win 10

oof no, they were already in Win8/8.1, Win10 only inherited the metro squares in menu and account bullshit

@elly

[pj@donotsta.re]

I do not count telemetry as spyware, but it also appeared in Win8 (Win10 has application that will show you all the data it collects: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/diagnostic-data-viewer-overview) though I would agree that Cortana is spyware and it appeared in Win10

@elly

[fun@berkeley.edu.pl]

@pj @elly Windows 8.1 was already bad in 2013 and caused some users to stay on 7 or quit to linux or macOS. Vista was also pretty bad. 10 went worse. 11 went way, way worse.