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It's probably alarmist, but this has me thinking: What if governments and bastard oligarchs actually manage to reverse the personal computing revolution of the last 50 years?

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  • fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF fluffykittycat@furry.engineer

    @lmorchard I've been looking into this and 180 nm Fabs are reasonably common because that's what a lot of automotive parts and not use so if you can design something from turn of the Millennium era technology we can reasonably get it manufactured somewhere in the world

    We're going to have to subscribe to the Steamboat Chronicles School of software engineering for a while until this whole mess sorts itself out

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    @lmorchard I could see countries building their own computer hardware industries as a matter of basic access and security against shocks. How many countries would pay 50 billion dollars to have enough a Guaranteed Supply of computers for people and businesses?

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    • lmorchard@masto.hackers.townL lmorchard@masto.hackers.town

      On one hand, I'm kinda looking forward to when bubbles burst and used hardware shows up cheap as liquidated surplus. On the other hand, I've got doomsday thinking like "how hard would it be to manufacture a DIY 6502 or Z80 in my garage?"

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      @lmorchard Well don't worry, thanks to the efforts of "Web designers", you'll never be able to display even the simplest web site on them.

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      • lmorchard@masto.hackers.townL lmorchard@masto.hackers.town

        On one hand, I'm kinda looking forward to when bubbles burst and used hardware shows up cheap as liquidated surplus. On the other hand, I've got doomsday thinking like "how hard would it be to manufacture a DIY 6502 or Z80 in my garage?"

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        @lmorchard The 6502 seems been made 'in a garage' various times by different people .. but I never heard so far of a Z80 ..

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        • lmorchard@masto.hackers.townL lmorchard@masto.hackers.town

          It's probably alarmist, but this has me thinking: What if governments and bastard oligarchs actually manage to reverse the personal computing revolution of the last 50 years? Nothing in tech is inevitable, not even individual practical access to hardware.

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          @lmorchard What if the opposite happens and hackers/users start to pull away from big tech.

          They create smaller mesh networks that are local with just fewer connections to the larger internet? No more always connected BBS style connections?

          They stop the upgrade cycle and put OSS OS's on their old computers? Focus on personal programming.

          They throw out smart phones for e-ink phones that have basic functionality and no browser?

          What if the users walked away? Took it back to the 80s?

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          • lmorchard@masto.hackers.townL lmorchard@masto.hackers.town

            It's probably alarmist, but this has me thinking: What if governments and bastard oligarchs actually manage to reverse the personal computing revolution of the last 50 years? Nothing in tech is inevitable, not even individual practical access to hardware.

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            Hold on to Your Hardware

            A warning about rising prices, vanishing consumer choice, and a future where owning a computer may matter more than ever as hardware, power, and control drift toward data centers and away from people.

            favicon

            マリウス (xn--gckvb8fzb.com)

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            @lmorchard
            This speaks to me on many levels.

            How many perfectly good systems am I rescuing from the e-waste lately? Plenty.

            People think I am mad, spending more money on "old shit" than I ever did on a new system.

            I predicted this trend, and I suffered for attempting to educate others about it. Those who do not wish to listen shall be doomed by their own ignorance.

            I don't give a shit if it's old. If it runs Linux and is compatible with the web, fuck the corporates and their drive to force me to upgrade.

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            • lmorchard@masto.hackers.townL lmorchard@masto.hackers.town

              It's probably alarmist, but this has me thinking: What if governments and bastard oligarchs actually manage to reverse the personal computing revolution of the last 50 years? Nothing in tech is inevitable, not even individual practical access to hardware.

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              Hold on to Your Hardware

              A warning about rising prices, vanishing consumer choice, and a future where owning a computer may matter more than ever as hardware, power, and control drift toward data centers and away from people.

              favicon

              マリウス (xn--gckvb8fzb.com)

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              @lmorchard OFC they wajt that because that'll #disempower the average person, and create a wide base if #TechIlliterate #consumers!

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              • dandean@indieweb.socialD dandean@indieweb.social

                @lmorchard I’m mixed - would this also be the end of profit-motivated planned-obsolescence?

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                @dandean @lmorchard no you'd get situations like playstation plus a few years ago where they removed psvita and ps3 games from it, and then made it cost more

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                • kali@discuss.systemsK kali@discuss.systems

                  @lmorchard can you not pick up right wing conspiracy slogans and just run with them *SMH*

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                  @kali @lmorchard tbh i associate it with libertarian shit more .. than i do with conservative far-right shit, which isn't much better, but eh

                  but also is this even really a conspiracy (?) im pretty sure that trying to destroy personal property of like technological everything is very much their stated and open goal for like awhile now

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                  • li@tech.lgbtL li@tech.lgbt

                    @kali @lmorchard tbh i associate it with libertarian shit more .. than i do with conservative far-right shit, which isn't much better, but eh

                    but also is this even really a conspiracy (?) im pretty sure that trying to destroy personal property of like technological everything is very much their stated and open goal for like awhile now

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                    @Li @lmorchard it is 101 wording from the the great reset conspiracy theory which is the pretty little sister of the great replacement theory.

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                    • kali@discuss.systemsK kali@discuss.systems

                      @Li @lmorchard it is 101 wording from the the great reset conspiracy theory which is the pretty little sister of the great replacement theory.

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                      #52

                      @Li @lmorchard maybe i am picky but i don't like it.

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                      • kali@discuss.systemsK kali@discuss.systems

                        @Li @lmorchard it is 101 wording from the the great reset conspiracy theory which is the pretty little sister of the great replacement theory.

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                        @kali @lmorchard fair, i think i mostly just hear it from the clippybros .. these days which is enough to not want to interact with it tbh

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                        • lmorchard@masto.hackers.townL lmorchard@masto.hackers.town

                          It's probably alarmist, but this has me thinking: What if governments and bastard oligarchs actually manage to reverse the personal computing revolution of the last 50 years? Nothing in tech is inevitable, not even individual practical access to hardware.

                          Link Preview Image
                          Hold on to Your Hardware

                          A warning about rising prices, vanishing consumer choice, and a future where owning a computer may matter more than ever as hardware, power, and control drift toward data centers and away from people.

                          favicon

                          マリウス (xn--gckvb8fzb.com)

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                          Yeah pretty sure if they do that
                          They will be in a eating lead situation.

                          Because I am not renting or spending any money on a machine I have no control over or has local storage.

                          If people had actual spines them doing this would enact a mass "stop paying taxes" movement.

                          We have more power than they make you think you have, you stop paying taxes for a few days and they will cave quick. Or if not you can always just shoot anyone that comes by to collect, at that point its a nothing to lose everything to gain through force moment anyway.

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                          • maddiefuzz@masto.hackers.townM maddiefuzz@masto.hackers.town

                            @thomasfuchs @lmorchard I’m not sure they’re gonna win that one, for the pessimistic reason that it’s quickly becoming An Industry that will surely lobby.

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                            @maddiefuzz @thomasfuchs @lmorchard

                            Just a moment...

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