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  3. Security nerds have launched a Gofundme to buy back securityfocus.com, a domain that hosted the Bugtraq site and more than 120,000 links from the National Vulnerability Database that are now dead.

Security nerds have launched a Gofundme to buy back securityfocus.com, a domain that hosted the Bugtraq site and more than 120,000 links from the National Vulnerability Database that are now dead.

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  • womble@infosec.exchangeW womble@infosec.exchange

    @HopelessDemigod domain squatting is against the rules. Speculation, on the other hand, is perfectly fair and reasonable.

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    @womble @HopelessDemigod
    How?

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    • the_moep@mastodon.deT the_moep@mastodon.de

      @womble @HopelessDemigod
      How?

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      @the_moep bad people squat domains, savvy businesspeople speculate.

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      • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

        Security nerds have launched a Gofundme to buy back securityfocus.com, a domain that hosted the Bugtraq site and more than 120,000 links from the National Vulnerability Database that are now dead. Whoops.

        "Symantec killed Bugtraq in 2020 and let the domain lapse. Now it's squatted for $175k," writes Jonathan Brossard. "The NVD has 120,000+ broken links pointing there. The security community's memory is being held hostage."

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        gofundme.com (www.gofundme.com)

        Not sure if this matters, but DomainTools says the domain was transferred to Accenture.com, Accenture Global Services Limited in Ireland.

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        @briankrebs It would be way better for "security nerds" to register securityfocus.is or whatever.eu and supply the non nerd community with `s/securityfocus.com/whatever.eu/` solution.

        Were times better the ACPA and pro bono lawyers would be enough.

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        • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

          Security nerds have launched a Gofundme to buy back securityfocus.com, a domain that hosted the Bugtraq site and more than 120,000 links from the National Vulnerability Database that are now dead. Whoops.

          "Symantec killed Bugtraq in 2020 and let the domain lapse. Now it's squatted for $175k," writes Jonathan Brossard. "The NVD has 120,000+ broken links pointing there. The security community's memory is being held hostage."

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          gofundme.com (www.gofundme.com)

          Not sure if this matters, but DomainTools says the domain was transferred to Accenture.com, Accenture Global Services Limited in Ireland.

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          @briankrebs
          Nah, not paying for thieves and opportunistic bags of shite. 175k for a domain? Hell no.

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          • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

            Security nerds have launched a Gofundme to buy back securityfocus.com, a domain that hosted the Bugtraq site and more than 120,000 links from the National Vulnerability Database that are now dead. Whoops.

            "Symantec killed Bugtraq in 2020 and let the domain lapse. Now it's squatted for $175k," writes Jonathan Brossard. "The NVD has 120,000+ broken links pointing there. The security community's memory is being held hostage."

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            Donate to Restore SecurityFocus & Bugtraq, organized by Jonathan Brossard

            Hi, I'm endrazine — a cybersecurity researcher, and author of security tools used by… Jonathan Brossard needs your support for Restore SecurityFocus & Bugtraq

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            gofundme.com (www.gofundme.com)

            Not sure if this matters, but DomainTools says the domain was transferred to Accenture.com, Accenture Global Services Limited in Ireland.

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            @briankrebs The whole vulnerability publication lifecycle is such a shit show. Vulnerability management tools are now handling their own CVE databases and enriching data without waiting for NISTs bottleneck.

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            • hopelessdemigod@mstdn.socialH hopelessdemigod@mstdn.social

              @briankrebs

              I thought squatting was prohibited? They need to enforce the policy and release the name.

              Having laws, policies or rules that aren’t enforced wastes people’s time.

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              @HopelessDemigod @briankrebs maybe someone could escalate the problem to ICANN?

              Symantec is awesome at breaking down things... it almost feels like it's their mission.

              Let's buy this awesome product. And ruin it.

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              • en3py@onlyarts.socialE en3py@onlyarts.social

                @HopelessDemigod @briankrebs maybe someone could escalate the problem to ICANN?

                Symantec is awesome at breaking down things... it almost feels like it's their mission.

                Let's buy this awesome product. And ruin it.

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                @en3py @HopelessDemigod @briankrebs

                This is nothing that ICANN really has anything to do with. Unless an ICANN contracted party did something wrong or if this would fall under DNS abuse, but even then the registrar would be the one investigating. I don't think this is a case of either.

                And as others already said, domain squatting is only the case if it infringes on the rights of others and us abusive. Selling domains itself does not constitute squatting.

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                • fancysandwiches@neuromatch.socialF fancysandwiches@neuromatch.social

                  @briankrebs publicly declaring a campaign to buy the domain back seems like a great way to make the price go up.

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                  @fancysandwiches @briankrebs

                  Yeah I think it might have been better to try to reach out to the owners first. According to archive org, it looks like Accenture had control over the domain already in 2023, unless the subdomain redirect messed up the archives somehow.

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                  • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                    Security nerds have launched a Gofundme to buy back securityfocus.com, a domain that hosted the Bugtraq site and more than 120,000 links from the National Vulnerability Database that are now dead. Whoops.

                    "Symantec killed Bugtraq in 2020 and let the domain lapse. Now it's squatted for $175k," writes Jonathan Brossard. "The NVD has 120,000+ broken links pointing there. The security community's memory is being held hostage."

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                    gofundme.com (www.gofundme.com)

                    Not sure if this matters, but DomainTools says the domain was transferred to Accenture.com, Accenture Global Services Limited in Ireland.

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                    “Lets reward domain squatting instead of running a search/replace”
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                    • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                      Security nerds have launched a Gofundme to buy back securityfocus.com, a domain that hosted the Bugtraq site and more than 120,000 links from the National Vulnerability Database that are now dead. Whoops.

                      "Symantec killed Bugtraq in 2020 and let the domain lapse. Now it's squatted for $175k," writes Jonathan Brossard. "The NVD has 120,000+ broken links pointing there. The security community's memory is being held hostage."

                      Link Preview Image
                      Donate to Restore SecurityFocus & Bugtraq, organized by Jonathan Brossard

                      Hi, I'm endrazine — a cybersecurity researcher, and author of security tools used by… Jonathan Brossard needs your support for Restore SecurityFocus & Bugtraq

                      favicon

                      gofundme.com (www.gofundme.com)

                      Not sure if this matters, but DomainTools says the domain was transferred to Accenture.com, Accenture Global Services Limited in Ireland.

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                      @briankrebs
                      What am I missing here? Getting the domain back does not restore the information the links point to. Is someone saying there is a backup somewhere to restore?

                      Restore it (old target website) anywhere (to a new host), I've downloaded the (NVD) database for local processing many times in my life... In your own copy, search and replace the domain reference to a new host...

                      If this is important enough to the community at large, work on getting the NVD data itself to be updated. It is all text (once upon a time, XML, now I think JSON)

                      🤔

                      Edit: clarified 'it' as "(old target website)...(to a new host)"; and 'database' as "(NVD)"

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                      • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                        Security nerds have launched a Gofundme to buy back securityfocus.com, a domain that hosted the Bugtraq site and more than 120,000 links from the National Vulnerability Database that are now dead. Whoops.

                        "Symantec killed Bugtraq in 2020 and let the domain lapse. Now it's squatted for $175k," writes Jonathan Brossard. "The NVD has 120,000+ broken links pointing there. The security community's memory is being held hostage."

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                        Hi, I'm endrazine — a cybersecurity researcher, and author of security tools used by… Jonathan Brossard needs your support for Restore SecurityFocus & Bugtraq

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                        gofundme.com (www.gofundme.com)

                        Not sure if this matters, but DomainTools says the domain was transferred to Accenture.com, Accenture Global Services Limited in Ireland.

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                        @briankrebs
                        Why in the hell would you pay a squatter for a domain? Fuck that guy
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                        • poing@chaos.socialP poing@chaos.social

                          @fancysandwiches @briankrebs

                          Yeah I think it might have been better to try to reach out to the owners first. According to archive org, it looks like Accenture had control over the domain already in 2023, unless the subdomain redirect messed up the archives somehow.

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                          @poing @fancysandwiches @briankrebs

                          Why not just fix the links and automatically point them to pages at archive org ?

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                          • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                            Security nerds have launched a Gofundme to buy back securityfocus.com, a domain that hosted the Bugtraq site and more than 120,000 links from the National Vulnerability Database that are now dead. Whoops.

                            "Symantec killed Bugtraq in 2020 and let the domain lapse. Now it's squatted for $175k," writes Jonathan Brossard. "The NVD has 120,000+ broken links pointing there. The security community's memory is being held hostage."

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                            gofundme.com (www.gofundme.com)

                            Not sure if this matters, but DomainTools says the domain was transferred to Accenture.com, Accenture Global Services Limited in Ireland.

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                            @briankrebs Accenture. Of fucking course.

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                            • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                              Security nerds have launched a Gofundme to buy back securityfocus.com, a domain that hosted the Bugtraq site and more than 120,000 links from the National Vulnerability Database that are now dead. Whoops.

                              "Symantec killed Bugtraq in 2020 and let the domain lapse. Now it's squatted for $175k," writes Jonathan Brossard. "The NVD has 120,000+ broken links pointing there. The security community's memory is being held hostage."

                              Link Preview Image
                              Donate to Restore SecurityFocus & Bugtraq, organized by Jonathan Brossard

                              Hi, I'm endrazine — a cybersecurity researcher, and author of security tools used by… Jonathan Brossard needs your support for Restore SecurityFocus & Bugtraq

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                              gofundme.com (www.gofundme.com)

                              Not sure if this matters, but DomainTools says the domain was transferred to Accenture.com, Accenture Global Services Limited in Ireland.

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                              @briankrebs fuck that, sed -i all the links in the NVD to point at archive.org and donate the 175k to them. Getting the domain won't restore the content anyways.

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                              • franga2000@chaos.socialF franga2000@chaos.social

                                @briankrebs fuck that, sed -i all the links in the NVD to point at archive.org and donate the 175k to them. Getting the domain won't restore the content anyways.

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                                @franga2000 @briankrebs

                                This. Buying the domain from a squatter is a retard move.
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                                • rusty_shackleford@colorlessgreenvoid.comR rusty_shackleford@colorlessgreenvoid.com
                                  @franga2000 @briankrebs

                                  This. Buying the domain from a squatter is a retard move.
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                                  @franga2000 @briankrebs
                                  Also this is the kinda thing a scammy group of crypto bro indians in a telegram channel would do. Buy a domain, then pretend to be concerned group of internet denizens and start a gofundme to buy the domain that they now own, trick of bunch of well meaning idiots into raising the money, and profit.

                                  I see stupid ops like this purpetrated by indians go down all time around crypto spaces.
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                                  • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                    Security nerds have launched a Gofundme to buy back securityfocus.com, a domain that hosted the Bugtraq site and more than 120,000 links from the National Vulnerability Database that are now dead. Whoops.

                                    "Symantec killed Bugtraq in 2020 and let the domain lapse. Now it's squatted for $175k," writes Jonathan Brossard. "The NVD has 120,000+ broken links pointing there. The security community's memory is being held hostage."

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                                    gofundme.com (www.gofundme.com)

                                    Not sure if this matters, but DomainTools says the domain was transferred to Accenture.com, Accenture Global Services Limited in Ireland.

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                                    @briankrebs sounds like something a big consulting firm or whatever they are would typically do for the planet.

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                                    • johnlogic@sfba.socialJ johnlogic@sfba.social

                                      @poing @fancysandwiches @briankrebs

                                      Why not just fix the links and automatically point them to pages at archive org ?

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                                      @johnlogic
                                      Also a good idea, but likely a logistical nightmare as it involves many many different site owners/webmasters.

                                      (hmm, do we still use that term? Feels like I haven't used it in a long time.)

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                                      • poing@chaos.socialP poing@chaos.social

                                        @johnlogic
                                        Also a good idea, but likely a logistical nightmare as it involves many many different site owners/webmasters.

                                        (hmm, do we still use that term? Feels like I haven't used it in a long time.)

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                                        @poing

                                        Sounds like an opportunity for someone to create a browser plug-in that just automatically offers to redirect links referencing the bad domain to the desired pages at the #InternetArchive .

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                                        • rusty_shackleford@colorlessgreenvoid.comR rusty_shackleford@colorlessgreenvoid.com
                                          @franga2000 @briankrebs

                                          This. Buying the domain from a squatter is a retard move.
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                                          @rusty_shackleford @franga2000 @briankrebs
                                          Can you criticize a slimy company without hurling slurs at people with disabilities and of different ethnic/national backgrounds?

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