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  • fds@mastodon.socialF fds@mastodon.social

    @atpfm I'm not disagreeing with anything said about AI and coding. It's unfortunate most people will end up with the wal-mart of products but I guess we're there already.

    I do believe the people that care about those ‘niche' things that were discussed, like memory management, do make better programs. The combination of arts (for UI) & that technical knowledge can make better programs. It's largely because we've train people to accept tolerable software that those things aren't appreciated.

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    #6

    @atpfm In an ideal world there would be stronger consumer protections so large companies can't just sling out something that barely works. As someone who uses Google software at work (Google apparently hires the best), I can say their software is basic at best. We should expect better especially given how important software is now but yes, that's not the case so yes we’ll make more experienced programmers more efficient with AI. Though lets see what happens once the AI training sources dry up.

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    • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

      678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
      https://atp.fm/678

      More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

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      #7

      @atpfm LoveFrom, are designing the exterior of the Luce too. I don’t think the standards of today’s Ferrari design are being considered. The vibe the press, Ferrari team and media are giving suggest Ferrari classics will be the inspiration. Both Ive and Newson have openly professed their love for their 60’s Ferraris and I can envision Ferrari’s history forming the foundation of the Luce project. The interior gives a 60’s-80’s Ferrari energy seen through a Newson 1999 Ford lense.

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      • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

        678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
        https://atp.fm/678

        More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

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        #8

        @atpfm
        I love how much @siracusa knows about cars while not personally partaking in the hobby.

        RE: @caseyliss “having the length"...
        @marcoarment says the i4 m40 is "probably faster than the Golf". Probably? PROBABLY? It's a rocket ship compared to the Golf. Our 2018 RWD LR Model 3 (250hp?) is almost certainly faster 0-60 than my former 2016 6MT Golf R. The immediate power is just insane, and even after almost 8 years, it _still_ feels fast, every time I drive it. The BMW, with 100 more HP, would just destroy both. (that said, the i4 leaves me cold, as it gets a lot of things wrong, like so many "legacy" automakers do with EVs)

        John's right, the back seat on the Taycan is tragically small and hard to get into. Even the front seat is shockingly low and difficult to get into, and I own a Boxster on sport suspension. I expected the Taycan to be like any other sporty sedan but it's much more like a sports car with a token rear seat. The ingress to the rear is .. not easy. (but probably fine for kids!)

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        • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

          678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
          https://atp.fm/678

          More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

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          #9

          @atpfm just me or is the latest episode not showing up in the member feed?

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          • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

            678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
            https://atp.fm/678

            More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

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            #10

            @atpfm @marcoarment I was actually pleasantly surprised at how well they designed it. Best interior for an electric car I’ve seen.

            I love that they retained an analogue look and feel and kept physical buttons.

            I think Jony really understood the assignment.

            Having said that, 5 years development time seems extremely long….

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            • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

              678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
              https://atp.fm/678

              More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

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              #11

              @atpfm those coefficient of drag numbers for flush door handles must be wrong. Only source I can find is this article.

              Link Preview Image
              Flush door handles are the car industry’s latest safety problem

              China considers banning retractable car door handles from 2027.

              favicon

              Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)

              But .01 is HUGE, not 1-2 miles. It’s 5% on a .20cd car!

              403 Forbidden

              favicon

              (insideevs.com)

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              • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

                678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
                https://atp.fm/678

                More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

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                #12

                @atpfm Excellent episode. Made me happy that my code writing days are long behind me.

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                • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

                  678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
                  https://atp.fm/678

                  More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

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                  #13

                  @atpfm Not that I'm trying to talk @caseyliss into a Porsche, but I wouldn't worry about "replacing the battery" problems on EVs. All EV batteries are warrantied until 100K, probably lasts twice as long, and Casey will get another itch by then.

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                  • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

                    678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
                    https://atp.fm/678

                    More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

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                    #14

                    @atpfm good perspective on AI development from Grady Booch, he’s been doing a few podcasts recently e.g. https://newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/the-third-golden-age-of-software

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                    • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

                      678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
                      https://atp.fm/678

                      More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

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                      #15

                      @atpfm Taycan as a fun electric car with CarPlay that’s not a Tesla is pretty much the exact reason why I got a used 1st gen Taycan myself, and I am very happy with it. It’s very long, VERY WIDE, and the range is not great compared to the current generation of EVs. But I would buy it again. No regrets.

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                      • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

                        678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
                        https://atp.fm/678

                        More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

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                        #16

                        @atpfm @caseyliss Most certainly shouldn't look into the BMW neue klasse (only IX3 revealed so far I believe), they sure seem like not worth the bother 🤪

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                        • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

                          678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
                          https://atp.fm/678

                          More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

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                          @atpfm It's very strange to hear the comments about Daikin.

                          They are the worlds largest AC company by sales and are considered a premium brand, with great longevity and performance. I think half the houses on my street have a ducted Daikin system installed.

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                          • atpfm@mastodon.socialA atpfm@mastodon.social

                            678: Mentoring a Box of Numbers
                            https://atp.fm/678

                            More on the impact of AI coding, and the Jony Ive-designed Ferrari interior.

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                            #18

                            @atpfm Regarding @marcoarment 's cold weather/water leak woes, and YoLink's (current) lack of Matter/Thread. The "YoLink YS1606 Local Hub" is coming, perhaps by summer. Details here:
                            https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys1606
                            See also:
                            "They did it! Yolink built a local hub."
                            https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/1itni0l/they_did_it_yolink_built_a_local_hub/

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                            • paulbraren@vmst.ioP paulbraren@vmst.io

                              @atpfm Regarding @marcoarment 's cold weather/water leak woes, and YoLink's (current) lack of Matter/Thread. The "YoLink YS1606 Local Hub" is coming, perhaps by summer. Details here:
                              https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys1606
                              See also:
                              "They did it! Yolink built a local hub."
                              https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/1itni0l/they_did_it_yolink_built_a_local_hub/

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                              @atpfm YoLink products have proven to be very helpful for tuning my HVAC (w/ claude.ai opus 4.6 assist).
                              https://tinkertry.com/tinkertry-2025-home-tech-refresh#:~:text=Yolink%20Temperature%2C%20Humidity%2C%20and%20Leak%20Detectors

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                              • marcoshuerta@vmst.ioM marcoshuerta@vmst.io

                                @atpfm Not that I'm trying to talk @caseyliss into a Porsche, but I wouldn't worry about "replacing the battery" problems on EVs. All EV batteries are warrantied until 100K, probably lasts twice as long, and Casey will get another itch by then.

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                                @marcoshuerta If you're referring to the part where I asked @caseyliss to consider how much "replacing the battery" would cost on a Taycan, I meant the (tiny) 12V battery, not the car's giant battery pack.

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                                • siracusa@mastodon.socialS siracusa@mastodon.social

                                  @marcoshuerta If you're referring to the part where I asked @caseyliss to consider how much "replacing the battery" would cost on a Taycan, I meant the (tiny) 12V battery, not the car's giant battery pack.

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                                  #21

                                  @siracusa @marcoshuerta FWIW I legit thought you meant the main pack

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                                  • caseyliss@mastodon.socialC caseyliss@mastodon.social

                                    @siracusa @marcoshuerta FWIW I legit thought you meant the main pack

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                                    @caseyliss @siracusa @marcoshuerta If you replace the main one, I'd expect them to throw in a change of the smaller one too. $$$

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                                    • caseyliss@mastodon.socialC caseyliss@mastodon.social

                                      @siracusa @marcoshuerta FWIW I legit thought you meant the main pack

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                                      @caseyliss @siracusa @marcoshuerta I totally knew that John meant 12V and could tell nobody else picked that up

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                                      • caseyliss@mastodon.socialC caseyliss@mastodon.social

                                        @siracusa @marcoshuerta FWIW I legit thought you meant the main pack

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                                        #24

                                        @caseyliss @marcoshuerta Probably because you’re thinking, how much could replacing a tiny 12V battery cost? I dare you to look it up.

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                                        • siracusa@mastodon.socialS siracusa@mastodon.social

                                          @caseyliss @marcoshuerta Probably because you’re thinking, how much could replacing a tiny 12V battery cost? I dare you to look it up.

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                                          #25

                                          @siracusa @caseyliss @marcoshuerta having had to buy a couple in recent years (and watching some car builders on YouTube), I know the answer is “an upsetting amount more than you’re expecting”, regardless of currency

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