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  • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

    We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

    "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

    "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

    PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

    -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

    -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
    ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
    -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
    -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
    -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
    -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
    -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

    Just a moment...

    favicon

    (www.privacyinternational.org)

    The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
    must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

    Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

    lacraia@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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    wrote last edited by
    #393

    @briankrebs Sorry for my ignorance, but is this for real? It reads like an Onion satire?

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    • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

      We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

      "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

      "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

      PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

      -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

      -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
      ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
      -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
      -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
      -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
      -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
      -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

      Just a moment...

      favicon

      (www.privacyinternational.org)

      The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
      must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

      Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

      smilingheretic@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote last edited by
      #394

      @briankrebs My frustration is that every time I tell someone I know who is planning on going to the US on holiday that they should wait until this fascist regime is gone, they think I am crazy.

      Look. I am a US citizen and I will not be going back there until the regime is over. There are much better places to visit anyway!

      #BoycottWorldCup2026 #BoycottUSA #BoycottUSAProducts

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        wrote last edited by
        #395

        @AAKL

        Boycotted please! If they cancel or move them, fine... But if they stay in the USA please cancel your tickets and boycott FIFA

        @briankrebs @alice

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        • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

          We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

          "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

          "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

          PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

          -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

          -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
          ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
          -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
          -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
          -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
          -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
          -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

          Just a moment...

          favicon

          (www.privacyinternational.org)

          The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
          must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

          Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

          marquisedewhat@ohai.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote last edited by
          #396

          @briankrebs They’re trying to further isolate their own people from allies. Multi-pronged state terrorism.

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          • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

            We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

            "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

            "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

            PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

            -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

            -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
            ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
            -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
            -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
            -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
            -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
            -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

            Just a moment...

            favicon

            (www.privacyinternational.org)

            The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
            must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

            Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

            prometheus@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote last edited by
            #397

            @briankrebs When I returning to the US... I'm f'ing scared too! Definitely going to be using a secondary Graphene OS phone for my stay in Thailand this summer. Not like I trust Thailand either.

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            • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

              We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

              "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

              "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

              PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

              -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

              -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
              ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
              -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
              -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
              -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
              -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
              -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

              Just a moment...

              favicon

              (www.privacyinternational.org)

              The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
              must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

              Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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              wrote last edited by
              #398

              @briankrebs

              "At first it was just going to be them."
              SearingTruth

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              • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                Just a moment...

                favicon

                (www.privacyinternational.org)

                The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                wrote last edited by
                #399

                @briankrebs
                Who would ever want to go to the USA ever again?
                Land of the free my ass...

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                • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                  I feel for anyone in the travel, tourism and hospitality industries, which make up ~ 10M jobs and ~ 3 percent of the nation's GDP. From the U.S. International Trade Administration (trade.gov)

                  "Inbound international travel to the United States plays a vital role in the Nation’s economy and promotes cultural exchange and understanding. Travel and tourism is the largest single services export for the United States, accounting for 22 percent of the country’s services exports and 7 percent of all exports in 2023. The travel and tourism industry contributed $2.3 trillion to the U.S. economy in 2022 (2.97 percent of the country’s GDP), supporting 9.5 million jobs."

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                  wrote last edited by
                  #400

                  @briankrebs "Inbound international travel to the United States plays a vital role in the Nation’s economy and promotes cultural exchange and understanding"
                  sounds like they want to halt the 'cultural exchange and understanding' part and allow the damage to the economy

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #401

                    @pitchingniblick haha same. Some blobbycompanies won't accept such mails though - probably exactly because of the confusion this might cause. For those I have rot13(blobbycompany) 🤓

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                    • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                      We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                      "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                      "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                      PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                      -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                      -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                      ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                      -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                      -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                      -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                      -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                      -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                      Just a moment...

                      favicon

                      (www.privacyinternational.org)

                      The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                      must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                      Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                      wrote last edited by
                      #402

                      @briankrebs i really want to come and visit the us someday but fuck no. not under these circumstances. not giving up my privacy and thus freedom of speech to enter the "freedom land"
                      its such a shame that a whole country of incredible people, places and culture is falling further in to the grasp of fascism

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                      • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                        We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                        "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                        "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                        PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                        -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                        -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                        ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                        -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                        -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                        -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                        -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                        -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                        Just a moment...

                        favicon

                        (www.privacyinternational.org)

                        The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                        must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                        Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                        wrote last edited by
                        #403

                        @briankrebs

                        "Open air prison…"

                        Sounds like Trump is taking lessons from Israel to apply at home. Soon they will be sniping the journalists, the bloggers, so no pictures show the world the depths.

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                        • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                          We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                          "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                          "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                          PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                          -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                          -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                          ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                          -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                          -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                          -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                          -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                          -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                          Just a moment...

                          favicon

                          (www.privacyinternational.org)

                          The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                          must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                          Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                          wrote last edited by
                          #404

                          @briankrebs I'm curious: what happens if you get to the checkpoints with a clean disposable phone, no other digital devices, and no email or social media records on hand?

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                            #405

                            @briankrebs so international FOSS orgs will finally stop organising their events in the US! Right? RIGHT!? 👀

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                            • aakl@infosec.exchangeA aakl@infosec.exchange

                              @briankrebs I'm curious: what happens if you get to the checkpoints with a clean disposable phone, no other digital devices, and no email or social media records on hand?

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                              wrote last edited by
                              #406

                              @AAKL you probably get the kicking room

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                              • alexandermars@mastodon.socialA alexandermars@mastodon.social

                                @AAKL you probably get the kicking room

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                                wrote last edited by
                                #407

                                @AlexanderMars I suppose the naive assumption would be that they would let you through anyway, but your answer is more likely.

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                                • aakl@infosec.exchangeA aakl@infosec.exchange

                                  @briankrebs I'm curious: what happens if you get to the checkpoints with a clean disposable phone, no other digital devices, and no email or social media records on hand?

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                                  #408

                                  @AAKL @briankrebs It depends...

                                  If you're white they'll just toss you into some prison hellhole with no records and conveniently "lose" you.

                                  If you're any sort of darker skin they'll just shoot you on site.

                                  If you're a billionaire, you'll get sucked off by a mionr.

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                                  • r3t3ch@mastodon.artR r3t3ch@mastodon.art

                                    @AAKL @briankrebs It depends...

                                    If you're white they'll just toss you into some prison hellhole with no records and conveniently "lose" you.

                                    If you're any sort of darker skin they'll just shoot you on site.

                                    If you're a billionaire, you'll get sucked off by a mionr.

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                                    @r3t3ch @briankrebs Probably not the nuanced approach most people in that position would want to hear. This is the nightmare scenario.

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                                    • aakl@infosec.exchangeA aakl@infosec.exchange

                                      @AlexanderMars I suppose the naive assumption would be that they would let you through anyway, but your answer is more likely.

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                                      #410

                                      @AAKL @AlexanderMars Differential enforcement based on your appearance, what agent you encounter at the gate, if you pay bribes directly or via some assuredly forthcoming “golden ticket” program (administered by a private contractor likely majority-owned by the first family)…

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                                      • aakl@infosec.exchangeA aakl@infosec.exchange

                                        @r3t3ch @briankrebs Probably not the nuanced approach most people in that position would want to hear. This is the nightmare scenario.

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                                        #411

                                        @AAKL @briankrebs The streets of Minneapolis and the Epstein files say it's not the possible scenario, it is the reality.

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                                        • aakl@infosec.exchangeA aakl@infosec.exchange

                                          @AlexanderMars I suppose the naive assumption would be that they would let you through anyway, but your answer is more likely.

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                                          #412

                                          @AAKL better to just not travel to the US under any circumstance. I'm a US citizen, just boycott the USA. What you can't build locally or reverse engineer, pirate.

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