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  • mourioche@mastodon.socialM mourioche@mastodon.social

    @benroyce
    Je rajouterais que pour moi le pseudonymat c'est comme un costume : On porte un costume différent selon là ou on va, et selon l'image que l'on veut montrer.
    Un speudo, c'est une identité.

    Personnellement j'ai plusieurs pseudos, pour des endroits différents sur internet.

    Ne pas porter de costume c'est être à poils.
    On ne sort pas dans la rue à poil, et bien pour internet c'est pareil.

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    @Mourioche

    J'apprécie votre philosophie.

    C'est simplement que je ne possède qu'un seul compte — celui-ci — et que mon véritable nom est Ben Royce.

    Je me tiens devant vous, nu.

    Mais je ne suis pas une personne trans. Ni un lanceur d'alerte. Ni un jeune qui explore de nouvelles facettes de sa personnalité. Etc.

    Je ne prétends pas que mon comportement doive servir de modèle à qui que ce soit d'autre.

    Pour moi-même, et pour personne d'autre, je prône une honnêteté brutale.

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @Mourioche

      J'apprécie votre philosophie.

      C'est simplement que je ne possède qu'un seul compte — celui-ci — et que mon véritable nom est Ben Royce.

      Je me tiens devant vous, nu.

      Mais je ne suis pas une personne trans. Ni un lanceur d'alerte. Ni un jeune qui explore de nouvelles facettes de sa personnalité. Etc.

      Je ne prétends pas que mon comportement doive servir de modèle à qui que ce soit d'autre.

      Pour moi-même, et pour personne d'autre, je prône une honnêteté brutale.

      mourioche@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #31

      @benroyce
      Personnellement je n'aime pas me montrer, et c'est pareil "IRL" en fait 🫠.
      Question de préférence.
      Et tout ça doit être un choix de chacun, un choix possible parmis d'autres.

      Pour moi, ce "costume de nu" a le gros désavantage de ne jamais pouvoir en changer... C'est là son seul problème.

      Et puis, un speudo on peut aussi parfois avoir beaucoup plus de consistance qu'une identité "réelle".
      Prenez "Banksy" par exemple... Quel intérêt pour la plupart de connaître son nom "réel" ?

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        ' #Greece to ban #anonymity on #socialMedia

        "The major problem behind anonymity is toxicity," argues digital governance minister'

        They are correct: anonymity is a vector for #trolls, #harassment, #bigotry, and other antisocial behavior

        So the solution is #moderation

        The solution is not driving vulnerable people off social media

        Greek government: you ignoramuses

        Also I wonder how the fuck they will implement this

        Just a moment...

        favicon

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        #Ελλάδα #Hellas #Europe

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        roknrol@beige.partyR This user is from outside of this forum
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        @benroyce They probably figure since they have to ingest and store all of those IDs for age, they may as well snag the other info as well.

        Predictable, I'm afraid. Every single country doing the age-gating shit will do this.

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        • roknrol@beige.partyR roknrol@beige.party

          @benroyce They probably figure since they have to ingest and store all of those IDs for age, they may as well snag the other info as well.

          Predictable, I'm afraid. Every single country doing the age-gating shit will do this.

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          @roknrol

          yup. it's a trojan horse

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          • mourioche@mastodon.socialM mourioche@mastodon.social

            @benroyce
            Personnellement je n'aime pas me montrer, et c'est pareil "IRL" en fait 🫠.
            Question de préférence.
            Et tout ça doit être un choix de chacun, un choix possible parmis d'autres.

            Pour moi, ce "costume de nu" a le gros désavantage de ne jamais pouvoir en changer... C'est là son seul problème.

            Et puis, un speudo on peut aussi parfois avoir beaucoup plus de consistance qu'une identité "réelle".
            Prenez "Banksy" par exemple... Quel intérêt pour la plupart de connaître son nom "réel" ?

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            @Mourioche

            Je choisis de me tenir nu devant tout le monde, car cela procure une forme de discipline.

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            • wattevans@mstdn.socialW wattevans@mstdn.social

              @disorderlyf @benroyce Or Twitter/X or pretty much any other social media.

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              @wattevans @benroyce I specify Facebook because of their "real name" policy and it's clear lack of mitigation of any toxicity whatsoever.

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              • draken@masto.nycD This user is from outside of this forum
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                @bridgeenjoyer @benroyce @kirakira
                So if you have a psychotic significant other would you stay with them just because they already know "everything about you?" Because this is that scenatio with Fecesbook. 😉

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  ' #Greece to ban #anonymity on #socialMedia

                  "The major problem behind anonymity is toxicity," argues digital governance minister'

                  They are correct: anonymity is a vector for #trolls, #harassment, #bigotry, and other antisocial behavior

                  So the solution is #moderation

                  The solution is not driving vulnerable people off social media

                  Greek government: you ignoramuses

                  Also I wonder how the fuck they will implement this

                  Just a moment...

                  favicon

                  (www.euractiv.com)

                  #Ελλάδα #Hellas #Europe

                  Link Preview Image
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                  @benroyce As with the kids bans around the world and the porn bans/ID checks in US states, it just pushes people from legitimate services that comply with the law over to shadier services that are in another country and DGAF. There are worse sites than Facebook and Twitter. Teenagers and incels will find them.

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                  • chrisp@cyberplace.socialC chrisp@cyberplace.social

                    @benroyce As with the kids bans around the world and the porn bans/ID checks in US states, it just pushes people from legitimate services that comply with the law over to shadier services that are in another country and DGAF. There are worse sites than Facebook and Twitter. Teenagers and incels will find them.

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                    @benroyce Facebook etc. apparently lobby for these requirements. The theory being that it is another bar to entry so the larger players will be able to implement it and won't lose as many users as the start ups, and they get to know the real ID of most of their users. It is very short sighted, it *will* impact new sign ups, it will affect which services people use.

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                    • chrisp@cyberplace.socialC chrisp@cyberplace.social

                      @benroyce Facebook etc. apparently lobby for these requirements. The theory being that it is another bar to entry so the larger players will be able to implement it and won't lose as many users as the start ups, and they get to know the real ID of most of their users. It is very short sighted, it *will* impact new sign ups, it will affect which services people use.

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                      @benroyce I'm hopeful it is the kiss of death for most of the big social media companies. Why would I use Facebook/Whatsapp when I can use Signal without proving who I am? Of course it also means that 4chan etc. will increase their user count, so it isn't all sunshine and roses.

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        ' #Greece to ban #anonymity on #socialMedia

                        "The major problem behind anonymity is toxicity," argues digital governance minister'

                        They are correct: anonymity is a vector for #trolls, #harassment, #bigotry, and other antisocial behavior

                        So the solution is #moderation

                        The solution is not driving vulnerable people off social media

                        Greek government: you ignoramuses

                        Also I wonder how the fuck they will implement this

                        Just a moment...

                        favicon

                        (www.euractiv.com)

                        #Ελλάδα #Hellas #Europe

                        Link Preview Image
                        log@mastodon.sdf.orgL This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @benroyce Truth be told, I am rather toxic, even if cooked first. Don't eat any mushrooms you can't identify, kids. *Especially* if the log the mushroom is sprouting out of says, "Psst! Hey! Over here! Eat one of these mushrooms."

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                        • log@mastodon.sdf.orgL log@mastodon.sdf.org

                          @benroyce Truth be told, I am rather toxic, even if cooked first. Don't eat any mushrooms you can't identify, kids. *Especially* if the log the mushroom is sprouting out of says, "Psst! Hey! Over here! Eat one of these mushrooms."

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                          @log

                          don't listen to Log folks, you need fibre in your diet

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                          • draken@masto.nycD draken@masto.nyc

                            @bridgeenjoyer @benroyce @kirakira
                            So if you have a psychotic significant other would you stay with them just because they already know "everything about you?" Because this is that scenatio with Fecesbook. 😉

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                            @draken @benroyce @kirakira while true , it would be like if that psycho also lied to all your friends and told them you beat them, so if you leave them you have no contacts.

                            Realistically I'm not giving them what they dont already have by just using messenger, knowing that every single thing I type is going right to zucc and their piece if shit ai.

                            Its not worth being an isolationist to "stick it to the man". The fact is, they got you, even if you think they dont. Or live with 0 devices.

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                            • bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.clubB bridgeenjoyer@gamepad.club

                              @draken @benroyce @kirakira while true , it would be like if that psycho also lied to all your friends and told them you beat them, so if you leave them you have no contacts.

                              Realistically I'm not giving them what they dont already have by just using messenger, knowing that every single thing I type is going right to zucc and their piece if shit ai.

                              Its not worth being an isolationist to "stick it to the man". The fact is, they got you, even if you think they dont. Or live with 0 devices.

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                              @bridgeenjoyer @benroyce @kirakira
                              That is the kind of defeatist attitude the Big Tech broligarchs want you to have to keep extracting money out of your attention. Even if you ditch Meta but are still using some Google products you're still depriving Fuckerberg of money. Your real friends will leave Meta with you.

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