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Did I miss that CVEs are allocated for supply chain compromises nowadays?

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  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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    RE: https://mastodon.social/@cisakevtracker/116647846381979235

    Did I miss that CVEs are allocated for supply chain compromises nowadays?

    nyanbinary@infosec.exchangeN christopherkunz@chaos.socialC gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG futuristicrobert@infosec.exchangeF caspicat@infosec.exchangeC 7 Replies Last reply
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    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

      RE: https://mastodon.social/@cisakevtracker/116647846381979235

      Did I miss that CVEs are allocated for supply chain compromises nowadays?

      nyanbinary@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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      @GossiTheDog wtf, someone needs to have a word with Kaspersky...

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      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

        RE: https://mastodon.social/@cisakevtracker/116647846381979235

        Did I miss that CVEs are allocated for supply chain compromises nowadays?

        christopherkunz@chaos.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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        @GossiTheDog And a 9.8, no less. Because why not just roll a dice on the CVSS score!

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        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

          RE: https://mastodon.social/@cisakevtracker/116647846381979235

          Did I miss that CVEs are allocated for supply chain compromises nowadays?

          gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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          RE: https://mastodon.social/@cisakevtracker/116647845255291135

          It's not isolated, e.g.

          There's a whole bunch of these now, it looks like companies are just yolo'ing out CVEs for other companies products.

          pauliehedron@infosec.exchangeP vathpela@infosec.exchangeV wdormann@infosec.exchangeW res260@infosec.exchangeR bontchev@infosec.exchangeB 6 Replies Last reply
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          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

            RE: https://mastodon.social/@cisakevtracker/116647846381979235

            Did I miss that CVEs are allocated for supply chain compromises nowadays?

            futuristicrobert@infosec.exchangeF This user is from outside of this forum
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            @GossiTheDog oh yes, I cannot wait for this to pollute my vulnerability tracking and discovery. Oh yes this is what we all need. Hurt us more CISA daddy!!!

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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              RE: https://mastodon.social/@cisakevtracker/116647846381979235

              Did I miss that CVEs are allocated for supply chain compromises nowadays?

              caspicat@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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              @GossiTheDog Yes, since 2017ish, for example

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              NVD - CVE-2021-4229

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              (nvd.nist.gov)

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              NVD - CVE-2017-16054

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              (nvd.nist.gov)

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              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                RE: https://mastodon.social/@cisakevtracker/116647845255291135

                It's not isolated, e.g.

                There's a whole bunch of these now, it looks like companies are just yolo'ing out CVEs for other companies products.

                pauliehedron@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                @GossiTheDog They found a way to justify AI costs?

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                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                  RE: https://mastodon.social/@cisakevtracker/116647845255291135

                  It's not isolated, e.g.

                  There's a whole bunch of these now, it looks like companies are just yolo'ing out CVEs for other companies products.

                  vathpela@infosec.exchangeV This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @GossiTheDog yeah, and a whole bunch of Open Source projects have had to become CNAs to keep others from issuing bullshit CVEs. Hence https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2024/01/16/curl-is-a-cna/ and http://www.kroah.com/log/blog/2024/02/13/linux-is-a-cna/ . Between that and NVD issuing CVSS scores that don't match what SMEs evaluate the same bugs as, and for that matter CVSS just being kind of bad in several ways, the whole scheme is starting to reek.

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                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                    RE: https://mastodon.social/@cisakevtracker/116647845255291135

                    It's not isolated, e.g.

                    There's a whole bunch of these now, it looks like companies are just yolo'ing out CVEs for other companies products.

                    wdormann@infosec.exchangeW This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @GossiTheDog
                    A CNA that is of organization type "Researcher" can issue CVEs for anything not explicitly in another CNA's scope.
                    Kaspersky is one such CNA.

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                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                      RE: https://mastodon.social/@cisakevtracker/116647846381979235

                      Did I miss that CVEs are allocated for supply chain compromises nowadays?

                      merospit@infosec.exchangeM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @GossiTheDog Makes sense to me.

                      CVE are regularly used to actually block deployment pipelines, which is a useful function for mitigating supply chain vulnerabilities.

                      More generally, I wouldn't want to be forced to distinguish between active and passive threats and then not be able to label the active threats in a standard way.

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                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                        RE: https://mastodon.social/@cisakevtracker/116647846381979235

                        Did I miss that CVEs are allocated for supply chain compromises nowadays?

                        thepwnicorn@infosec.exchangeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @GossiTheDog makes sense though if the package/software version is compromised? Whether the vulnerability stems from a bug or deliberately placed malware or backdoor, they are all vulnerabilities of some sort.

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                        • thepwnicorn@infosec.exchangeT thepwnicorn@infosec.exchange

                          @GossiTheDog makes sense though if the package/software version is compromised? Whether the vulnerability stems from a bug or deliberately placed malware or backdoor, they are all vulnerabilities of some sort.

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                          @GossiTheDog they could of course also contribute to OSSF's malicious package DB instead. If it is a package like tanstack.

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                          • thepwnicorn@infosec.exchangeT thepwnicorn@infosec.exchange

                            @GossiTheDog they could of course also contribute to OSSF's malicious package DB instead. If it is a package like tanstack.

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                            @GossiTheDog the XZ backdoor for instance also got a CVE (CVE-2024-3094).

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                            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                              RE: https://mastodon.social/@cisakevtracker/116647845255291135

                              It's not isolated, e.g.

                              There's a whole bunch of these now, it looks like companies are just yolo'ing out CVEs for other companies products.

                              res260@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @GossiTheDog Yeah its weird but it started last year from what I can tell.

                              Guess malware is a vulnerability now 💀

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                              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                RE: https://mastodon.social/@cisakevtracker/116647845255291135

                                It's not isolated, e.g.

                                There's a whole bunch of these now, it looks like companies are just yolo'ing out CVEs for other companies products.

                                bontchev@infosec.exchangeB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @GossiTheDog Weelll... If a particular version of a product has been Trojanized due to a supply-chain attack, it could be argued that this version contains a vulnerability now, no? And vulnerabilities are assigned CVEs.

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                                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                  RE: https://mastodon.social/@cisakevtracker/116647845255291135

                                  It's not isolated, e.g.

                                  There's a whole bunch of these now, it looks like companies are just yolo'ing out CVEs for other companies products.

                                  campuscodi@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @GossiTheDog It's because of this, prolly. They've been added to the KEV so CISA can force agencies to clean out artifacts/compromised systems

                                  https://mastodon.social/@campuscodi/116648324167478081

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                                  • campuscodi@mastodon.socialC campuscodi@mastodon.social

                                    @GossiTheDog It's because of this, prolly. They've been added to the KEV so CISA can force agencies to clean out artifacts/compromised systems

                                    https://mastodon.social/@campuscodi/116648324167478081

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                                    @campuscodi it's pretty odd. They're not vulnerabilities... if you were affected, it'd be an incident - not an upgrade. CISA need to build a better system and process.

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                                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                      @campuscodi it's pretty odd. They're not vulnerabilities... if you were affected, it'd be an incident - not an upgrade. CISA need to build a better system and process.

                                      thepwnicorn@infosec.exchangeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @GossiTheDog @campuscodi you're not wrong, but it seems CVEs are the go to mechanism for any security issue of software dependencies.

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