@jerry just thinking through the inevitable nightmares inbound from UK, EU, and US age verification requirements for social media, where does this land us on Infosec.exchange?
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@jerry just thinking through the inevitable nightmares inbound from UK, EU, and US age verification requirements for social media, where does this land us on Infosec.exchange?
Early days I know, but curious on your thoughts.
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@jerry just thinking through the inevitable nightmares inbound from UK, EU, and US age verification requirements for social media, where does this land us on Infosec.exchange?
Early days I know, but curious on your thoughts.
@SecurityWriter it’s hard to say. Outside of the U.K., most country laws place limits of applicability so that they are really focused on larger platforms. We don’t have a U.K. presence and it seems very unlikely we will pop on their radar.
Mastodon recently added a requirement to add your age on signup and lets admins set a minimum age, but that’s basically cosmetic. I don’t see a future where we can do anything more than that. If it becomes too legally perilous to continue, I and likely most all other operators will close shop. I love yall, but I’m not sitting in jail to protest a policy that I have no hope of changing.
Anyhow, things like this have happened every few months for the now 9 years I’ve been running the place and it’s never once been an issue.
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@SecurityWriter it’s hard to say. Outside of the U.K., most country laws place limits of applicability so that they are really focused on larger platforms. We don’t have a U.K. presence and it seems very unlikely we will pop on their radar.
Mastodon recently added a requirement to add your age on signup and lets admins set a minimum age, but that’s basically cosmetic. I don’t see a future where we can do anything more than that. If it becomes too legally perilous to continue, I and likely most all other operators will close shop. I love yall, but I’m not sitting in jail to protest a policy that I have no hope of changing.
Anyhow, things like this have happened every few months for the now 9 years I’ve been running the place and it’s never once been an issue.
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@GossiTheDog @jerry @SecurityWriter I can see the Daily Mail headline now: "Woke Leftie llama flouts UK laws"
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@SecurityWriter it’s hard to say. Outside of the U.K., most country laws place limits of applicability so that they are really focused on larger platforms. We don’t have a U.K. presence and it seems very unlikely we will pop on their radar.
Mastodon recently added a requirement to add your age on signup and lets admins set a minimum age, but that’s basically cosmetic. I don’t see a future where we can do anything more than that. If it becomes too legally perilous to continue, I and likely most all other operators will close shop. I love yall, but I’m not sitting in jail to protest a policy that I have no hope of changing.
Anyhow, things like this have happened every few months for the now 9 years I’ve been running the place and it’s never once been an issue.
@SecurityWriter btw, it's a good question. I'm sure lots of people have similar questions.
To put a fine point on it - even if I wanted to comply with a law that requires more aggressive age verification, it's just not possible. I couldn't afford to do it- whatever it is, I wouldn't have the time to do it, and I wouldn't be willing to accept the risk of handling people's identification. So I go back to the point that there is just no way forward for complying with those laws. I suspect 99.5% of the rest of the fediverse, maybe even 100% would be in the same spot. For now, we keep our heads down and hopefully stay off the radar.
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@SecurityWriter it’s hard to say. Outside of the U.K., most country laws place limits of applicability so that they are really focused on larger platforms. We don’t have a U.K. presence and it seems very unlikely we will pop on their radar.
Mastodon recently added a requirement to add your age on signup and lets admins set a minimum age, but that’s basically cosmetic. I don’t see a future where we can do anything more than that. If it becomes too legally perilous to continue, I and likely most all other operators will close shop. I love yall, but I’m not sitting in jail to protest a policy that I have no hope of changing.
Anyhow, things like this have happened every few months for the now 9 years I’ve been running the place and it’s never once been an issue.
@jerry agreed.
I’d most likely spin up my own instance just for myself.
Nobody is expecting you to go above and beyond the amazing work you put into this place already.
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R relay@relay.infosec.exchange shared this topic
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@SecurityWriter btw, it's a good question. I'm sure lots of people have similar questions.
To put a fine point on it - even if I wanted to comply with a law that requires more aggressive age verification, it's just not possible. I couldn't afford to do it- whatever it is, I wouldn't have the time to do it, and I wouldn't be willing to accept the risk of handling people's identification. So I go back to the point that there is just no way forward for complying with those laws. I suspect 99.5% of the rest of the fediverse, maybe even 100% would be in the same spot. For now, we keep our heads down and hopefully stay off the radar.
@jerry this is what I keep coming back to, and mentioned it earlier in reference to websites.
~15% sites are actually GDPR ‘compliant’.
Good luck getting anyone to do anything with active moderation or costing extra money.
