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#Roblox, #Reddit and #Discord users must use biometric #ageverification tool backed by Palantir co-founder Peter Thiel

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  • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

    @openrightsgroup @JamesBaker "have choice about who to verify their identity with" what about not forcing people to deanonymize to use Internet services? It would be weird to have to log ID to buy a book, so it should be weird to have to log ID to access a website

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    @mcc @openrightsgroup That would be ideal! But this seems a more achievable policy request from Government

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    • jamesbaker@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jamesbaker@social.openrightsgroup.org

      @mcc @openrightsgroup That would be ideal! But this seems a more achievable policy request from Government

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      @JamesBaker @openrightsgroup I think government should have to bend to accommodate us and not the other way around

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      • openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.org

        #Roblox, #Reddit and #Discord users must use biometric #ageverification tool backed by Palantir co-founder Peter Thiel

        @JamesBaker says:

        “People are worried, and angry, about having to hand over biometric scans of their face to overseas companies just to access online platforms. This includes children.

        “Users deserve to know who is behind these systems, how their data is being used, and to have a real choice about who verifies their identity online.”

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        Roblox, Reddit and Discord users compelled to use biometric ID system backed by Palantir co-founder Peter Thiel

        Following global pushes for age assurance by governments, Persona is increasingly being used by major online platforms to carry out biometric age checks.

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        @openrightsgroup @JamesBaker
        "UK users are increasingly worried about being required to hand over biometric facial data to US technology companies in order to participate in mainstream online platforms."

        Especially since we won't do it here in the US. Not yet anyway.

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        • openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.org

          #Roblox, #Reddit and #Discord users must use biometric #ageverification tool backed by Palantir co-founder Peter Thiel

          @JamesBaker says:

          “People are worried, and angry, about having to hand over biometric scans of their face to overseas companies just to access online platforms. This includes children.

          “Users deserve to know who is behind these systems, how their data is being used, and to have a real choice about who verifies their identity online.”

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          Roblox, Reddit and Discord users compelled to use biometric ID system backed by Palantir co-founder Peter Thiel

          Following global pushes for age assurance by governments, Persona is increasingly being used by major online platforms to carry out biometric age checks.

          favicon

          Open Rights Group (www.openrightsgroup.org)

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          @openrightsgroup @JamesBaker

          I'm totally fed up with this idea that some magical entity is entitled to my life and all that's in it. Or to be able to locate me wherever I might be in this world.

          In a vain attempt to avoid this invasion I won't have a cell phone, won't stay on a site that demands cookies and Use any possible means to keep my data mine.

          If some entity is going to sell my data at the very least I should be paid for every bit they sell, at my price not theirs.

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          • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

            @openrightsgroup @JamesBaker

            when there is a choice of verification options, and they choose Peter Theil ... that is not an accident.

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            @charlesdelavalleepoussin @openrightsgroup @JamesBaker I wonder if Palantir has been lobbying for all these age verification laws? It would explain why such similar laws are all showing up at once, and why they “just happen” to be the vendor of choice to provide “necessary” age verification services.

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            • crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC crazyeddie@mastodon.social

              @openrightsgroup @JamesBaker
              "UK users are increasingly worried about being required to hand over biometric facial data to US technology companies in order to participate in mainstream online platforms."

              Especially since we won't do it here in the US. Not yet anyway.

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              @crazyeddie @openrightsgroup @JamesBaker >> Especially since we won't do it here in the US. Not yet anyway.

              Depends what state you live in.

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              • misusecase@twit.socialM misusecase@twit.social

                @charlesdelavalleepoussin @openrightsgroup @JamesBaker I wonder if Palantir has been lobbying for all these age verification laws? It would explain why such similar laws are all showing up at once, and why they “just happen” to be the vendor of choice to provide “necessary” age verification services.

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                @MisuseCase @openrightsgroup @JamesBaker

                100%

                and I also worry about their involvement in the NHS - specifically our personal health data

                unlike reddit or discord, it is almost impossible to opt out of the NHS

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                • openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.org

                  #Roblox, #Reddit and #Discord users must use biometric #ageverification tool backed by Palantir co-founder Peter Thiel

                  @JamesBaker says:

                  “People are worried, and angry, about having to hand over biometric scans of their face to overseas companies just to access online platforms. This includes children.

                  “Users deserve to know who is behind these systems, how their data is being used, and to have a real choice about who verifies their identity online.”

                  Link Preview Image
                  Roblox, Reddit and Discord users compelled to use biometric ID system backed by Palantir co-founder Peter Thiel

                  Following global pushes for age assurance by governments, Persona is increasingly being used by major online platforms to carry out biometric age checks.

                  favicon

                  Open Rights Group (www.openrightsgroup.org)

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                  @openrightsgroup @JamesBaker

                  It comes down to how much they need them. Which is... not at all.

                  That is the only thing companies understand. The bottom line. Change that, you get their attention.

                  Normalization should not be an option.

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                  • misusecase@twit.socialM misusecase@twit.social

                    @charlesdelavalleepoussin @openrightsgroup @JamesBaker I wonder if Palantir has been lobbying for all these age verification laws? It would explain why such similar laws are all showing up at once, and why they “just happen” to be the vendor of choice to provide “necessary” age verification services.

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                    @MisuseCase @charlesdelavalleepoussin @openrightsgroup @JamesBaker
                    I've wondered about that myself. Happening across the globe and someone is driving it. My money is on Palantir, bringing us an age gated two tier surveillance internet in a dystopian future.

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                    • openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.org

                      #Roblox, #Reddit and #Discord users must use biometric #ageverification tool backed by Palantir co-founder Peter Thiel

                      @JamesBaker says:

                      “People are worried, and angry, about having to hand over biometric scans of their face to overseas companies just to access online platforms. This includes children.

                      “Users deserve to know who is behind these systems, how their data is being used, and to have a real choice about who verifies their identity online.”

                      Link Preview Image
                      Roblox, Reddit and Discord users compelled to use biometric ID system backed by Palantir co-founder Peter Thiel

                      Following global pushes for age assurance by governments, Persona is increasingly being used by major online platforms to carry out biometric age checks.

                      favicon

                      Open Rights Group (www.openrightsgroup.org)

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                      @openrightsgroup I've used all three of these platforms for years how, in my opinion the main reason why Discord and Roblox is rolling out AV globally is due to poor moderation of bad actors.

                      This backlash has caused investors to look the other way and lose revenue, however these changes are just ways to gain them back however users will have ways around these restrictions.

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                      • openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.orgO openrightsgroup@social.openrightsgroup.org

                        #Roblox, #Reddit and #Discord users must use biometric #ageverification tool backed by Palantir co-founder Peter Thiel

                        @JamesBaker says:

                        “People are worried, and angry, about having to hand over biometric scans of their face to overseas companies just to access online platforms. This includes children.

                        “Users deserve to know who is behind these systems, how their data is being used, and to have a real choice about who verifies their identity online.”

                        Link Preview Image
                        Roblox, Reddit and Discord users compelled to use biometric ID system backed by Palantir co-founder Peter Thiel

                        Following global pushes for age assurance by governments, Persona is increasingly being used by major online platforms to carry out biometric age checks.

                        favicon

                        Open Rights Group (www.openrightsgroup.org)

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                        @openrightsgroup @JamesBaker Any mention of Thiel should also mention that he is associated with convicted child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

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                        • danyeaw@fosstodon.orgD danyeaw@fosstodon.org

                          @openrightsgroup @JamesBaker Any mention of Thiel should also mention that he is associated with convicted child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

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                          @danyeaw @openrightsgroup I would not want my child sending a picture of their face to a company he’s a major investor of.

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                          • danyeaw@fosstodon.orgD danyeaw@fosstodon.org

                            @openrightsgroup @JamesBaker Any mention of Thiel should also mention that he is associated with convicted child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

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                            @danyeaw @openrightsgroup @JamesBaker

                            True this is also relevant, and they mention it in the article

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