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In general, which rights do you feel are more important: Parents' rights or children's rights?

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  • njord@zeroes.caN This user is from outside of this forum
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    In general, which rights do you feel are more important: Parents' rights or children's rights?

    goblinquester@dice.campG machinelordzero@mastodon.socialM echedellelr@soc.masfloss.netE luxliquida@critter.cafeL 4 Replies Last reply
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    • njord@zeroes.caN njord@zeroes.ca

      In general, which rights do you feel are more important: Parents' rights or children's rights?

      goblinquester@dice.campG This user is from outside of this forum
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      @Njord I know what you are out for here, but I feel it is a false dichotomy here, there isn't about "parents rights". It is if children have human rights at all. The "Parents Rights" statement is just a statement for "My children are objects that are mine to do whatever I like with". So it isn't about if something is "important" it is about human rights period.

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      • njord@zeroes.caN njord@zeroes.ca

        In general, which rights do you feel are more important: Parents' rights or children's rights?

        machinelordzero@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        @Njord I don't think I understand the subjects.

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        • goblinquester@dice.campG goblinquester@dice.camp

          @Njord I know what you are out for here, but I feel it is a false dichotomy here, there isn't about "parents rights". It is if children have human rights at all. The "Parents Rights" statement is just a statement for "My children are objects that are mine to do whatever I like with". So it isn't about if something is "important" it is about human rights period.

          njord@zeroes.caN This user is from outside of this forum
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          @GoblinQuester I generally agree that parents' rights is often more about controlling rather than protecting kids. it's just with the whole age verification push, I was curious how people felt about it. Granted Fedi is a bit of a skewed sample, but I'm still curious

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          • njord@zeroes.caN njord@zeroes.ca

            @GoblinQuester I generally agree that parents' rights is often more about controlling rather than protecting kids. it's just with the whole age verification push, I was curious how people felt about it. Granted Fedi is a bit of a skewed sample, but I'm still curious

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            @Njord @GoblinQuester I agree its a false dichotomy and also agree that age verification is a horrible way of managing the devices your children use and the services they have access to.

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            • njord@zeroes.caN njord@zeroes.ca

              @GoblinQuester I generally agree that parents' rights is often more about controlling rather than protecting kids. it's just with the whole age verification push, I was curious how people felt about it. Granted Fedi is a bit of a skewed sample, but I'm still curious

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              @Njord @GoblinQuester exactly my thoughts too. Children are people with full rights, and the role of parents (in my opinion as a parent), is to support their children, and help assert their rights, especially while the child is too young to assert them for themselves.

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              • njord@zeroes.caN njord@zeroes.ca

                In general, which rights do you feel are more important: Parents' rights or children's rights?

                echedellelr@soc.masfloss.netE This user is from outside of this forum
                echedellelr@soc.masfloss.netE This user is from outside of this forum
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                @Njord europe is not a nation

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                • njord@zeroes.caN njord@zeroes.ca

                  In general, which rights do you feel are more important: Parents' rights or children's rights?

                  luxliquida@critter.cafeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @Njord I want to believe that a lot of people sympathetic to "parents' rights" are (or want to be) parents who think they are in the best position to protect their children...

                  But those of us who favor "children's rights" remember being children in authoritarian households, schools, and churches, and we know the kind of abuse that is inevitable if children don't have a loud voice in their autonomy

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                  • echedellelr@soc.masfloss.netE echedellelr@soc.masfloss.net

                    @Njord europe is not a nation

                    njord@zeroes.caN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @echedellelr

                    For clarity, I'm using the definition of nation that means a people with a shared history, identity and culture within a geographical region, not the more common usage that is a shorthand for "nation-state"

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