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So, uh, I haven't... I haven't tried TikTok yet.

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  • cube_drone@mastodon.socialC cube_drone@mastodon.social

    So, uh, I haven't... I haven't tried TikTok yet. I know, it's weird, I'm a grown-ass adult, and yet here we are.

    I just spent like 30 minutes browsing TikTok and honestly it explains _so much_ about why... well, everything is just LIKE this, now.

    it's... just wall-to-wall political misinformation, loud noises, boobs, kittens, AI slop, teenagers echoing white supremacist talking points, stunts, ads, get-rich-quick-schemes, it's like pure liquid USA

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    @cube_drone I've never made a go of it either. And I'm not in the US, though, so it's a bit different
    Friends share fun ones on elsewhere. There's good people on it too - as with just about everything. Doesn't mean I want its claws in me, Meta has ruined the technojoy I once had for socials

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    • cube_drone@mastodon.socialC cube_drone@mastodon.social

      So, uh, I haven't... I haven't tried TikTok yet. I know, it's weird, I'm a grown-ass adult, and yet here we are.

      I just spent like 30 minutes browsing TikTok and honestly it explains _so much_ about why... well, everything is just LIKE this, now.

      it's... just wall-to-wall political misinformation, loud noises, boobs, kittens, AI slop, teenagers echoing white supremacist talking points, stunts, ads, get-rich-quick-schemes, it's like pure liquid USA

      moreentropy@chaos.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @cube_drone I remember the „early days“ when TikTok was new (here). It was lovely, it was creative. Mostly people lip syncing to other sounds and innocent skits from all around the world. No influencing at all, just creativity. It was fascinating. It’s long gone.

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      • cube_drone@mastodon.socialC cube_drone@mastodon.social

        So, uh, I haven't... I haven't tried TikTok yet. I know, it's weird, I'm a grown-ass adult, and yet here we are.

        I just spent like 30 minutes browsing TikTok and honestly it explains _so much_ about why... well, everything is just LIKE this, now.

        it's... just wall-to-wall political misinformation, loud noises, boobs, kittens, AI slop, teenagers echoing white supremacist talking points, stunts, ads, get-rich-quick-schemes, it's like pure liquid USA

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        @cube_drone 😂🤣😂 yep

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        • cube_drone@mastodon.socialC cube_drone@mastodon.social

          So, uh, I haven't... I haven't tried TikTok yet. I know, it's weird, I'm a grown-ass adult, and yet here we are.

          I just spent like 30 minutes browsing TikTok and honestly it explains _so much_ about why... well, everything is just LIKE this, now.

          it's... just wall-to-wall political misinformation, loud noises, boobs, kittens, AI slop, teenagers echoing white supremacist talking points, stunts, ads, get-rich-quick-schemes, it's like pure liquid USA

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          @cube_drone@mastodon.social I'm so sorry you had that experience. I mean, I was going to say, "yeah, you're a grown ass adult, that's why you haven't tried TikTok." But um, well I guess, now you know.

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          • neilk@xoxo.zoneN neilk@xoxo.zone

            @cube_drone That’s how long I lasted. IMO Tiktok is the closest thing we have to a malevolent demon. It’s a superhuman entity whose one goal is to find what weaknesses exist in your soul and then to turn you into its slave. Most social media has this now, but Tiktok is so much worse.

            Incidentally if you turn off history on Youtube, the Shorts feature no longer enough information to do the infinite suggestions thing

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            @neilk @cube_drone, hah. I've completely ignored Shorts for the trivially simple reason that what I briefly saw of it was entirely portrait-layout video. (If it were landscape, I'd probably be ignoring it because the content was not of interest…)

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            • cube_drone@mastodon.socialC cube_drone@mastodon.social

              So, uh, I haven't... I haven't tried TikTok yet. I know, it's weird, I'm a grown-ass adult, and yet here we are.

              I just spent like 30 minutes browsing TikTok and honestly it explains _so much_ about why... well, everything is just LIKE this, now.

              it's... just wall-to-wall political misinformation, loud noises, boobs, kittens, AI slop, teenagers echoing white supremacist talking points, stunts, ads, get-rich-quick-schemes, it's like pure liquid USA

              virtuous_sloth@cosocial.caV This user is from outside of this forum
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              @cube_drone Interesting. My wife is on Tiktok (read-only) and I see a representative selection of what is in her feed and she has none of those things. I suppose there is a default raw feed that is garbage but she would have curated her follows a few years ago and whatever is algorithmically shown maybe is based on that?

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              • cube_drone@mastodon.socialC cube_drone@mastodon.social

                So, uh, I haven't... I haven't tried TikTok yet. I know, it's weird, I'm a grown-ass adult, and yet here we are.

                I just spent like 30 minutes browsing TikTok and honestly it explains _so much_ about why... well, everything is just LIKE this, now.

                it's... just wall-to-wall political misinformation, loud noises, boobs, kittens, AI slop, teenagers echoing white supremacist talking points, stunts, ads, get-rich-quick-schemes, it's like pure liquid USA

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                @cube_drone
                > I'm a grown-ass adult

                This simple statement is strong justification for *not* using TikTok

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                • apike@mastodon.socialA apike@mastodon.social

                  @cube_drone Yes! For what it's worth, you can prod TikTok to give you a pretty wholesome high-quality feed by reinforcing what you want (swipe away or "not interested" and certainly don't comment or spread the bad stuff). But that doesn't fix the fact everybody else is getting the bad stuff

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                  @apike @cube_drone

                  I don't think I am a good enough person to survive microseconds of reaction time being scrutinized. I will take 0.3 seconds more to swipe away when it's something I'm vulnerable to, and TikTok is there, going "noted. you want another one of those?? how about another? another?"

                  That's the stuff I'm _consciously_ avoiding. There are more subtle traps, like feeding my rage addiction about legitimately bad things, or entrancing me with brainrot splitscreens

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                  • cube_drone@mastodon.socialC cube_drone@mastodon.social

                    So, uh, I haven't... I haven't tried TikTok yet. I know, it's weird, I'm a grown-ass adult, and yet here we are.

                    I just spent like 30 minutes browsing TikTok and honestly it explains _so much_ about why... well, everything is just LIKE this, now.

                    it's... just wall-to-wall political misinformation, loud noises, boobs, kittens, AI slop, teenagers echoing white supremacist talking points, stunts, ads, get-rich-quick-schemes, it's like pure liquid USA

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                    @cube_drone
                    I *knew* there was a reason I am avoiding TikTok, you gave me several.

                    Thanks.

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                    • virtuous_sloth@cosocial.caV virtuous_sloth@cosocial.ca

                      @cube_drone Interesting. My wife is on Tiktok (read-only) and I see a representative selection of what is in her feed and she has none of those things. I suppose there is a default raw feed that is garbage but she would have curated her follows a few years ago and whatever is algorithmically shown maybe is based on that?

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                      @cube_drone We live in Canada, mind you, maybe they also do geographic-based algorithms?

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                      • cube_drone@mastodon.socialC cube_drone@mastodon.social

                        So, uh, I haven't... I haven't tried TikTok yet. I know, it's weird, I'm a grown-ass adult, and yet here we are.

                        I just spent like 30 minutes browsing TikTok and honestly it explains _so much_ about why... well, everything is just LIKE this, now.

                        it's... just wall-to-wall political misinformation, loud noises, boobs, kittens, AI slop, teenagers echoing white supremacist talking points, stunts, ads, get-rich-quick-schemes, it's like pure liquid USA

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                        @cube_drone my psychiatrist believes that that is also why ADHD cases have exponentially grown. She's like "do you use TikTok?" I laughed and said "I'm a grumpy millennial. I have more sense than that"

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                        • cube_drone@mastodon.socialC cube_drone@mastodon.social

                          So, uh, I haven't... I haven't tried TikTok yet. I know, it's weird, I'm a grown-ass adult, and yet here we are.

                          I just spent like 30 minutes browsing TikTok and honestly it explains _so much_ about why... well, everything is just LIKE this, now.

                          it's... just wall-to-wall political misinformation, loud noises, boobs, kittens, AI slop, teenagers echoing white supremacist talking points, stunts, ads, get-rich-quick-schemes, it's like pure liquid USA

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                          @cube_drone It's as if a foreign adversary made a "Trojan horse app" that simply amplifies our online culture as its secret weapon.

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                          • cube_drone@mastodon.socialC cube_drone@mastodon.social

                            admittedly, commenting "this is racist misinformation" under videos just incentivizes The Algorithm to show me more of those videos and I have no way to control that with something as simple as a dislike button

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                            @cube_drone And there you've hit on why I quit TikTok. You can curate it to content that is genuinely very good, but only if you expend significant effort teaching the algorithm what you want to see. And even then, you can't rest, you have to be constantly vigilant not to engage with the wrong thing, because just beyond the walls of your happy garden is a zombie horde stretching into the horizon. Same reason I quit Threads, and never bothered at all with a bunch of other algorithmic feeds.

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                            • moreentropy@chaos.socialM moreentropy@chaos.social

                              @cube_drone I remember the „early days“ when TikTok was new (here). It was lovely, it was creative. Mostly people lip syncing to other sounds and innocent skits from all around the world. No influencing at all, just creativity. It was fascinating. It’s long gone.

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                              @moreentropy @cube_drone That was the zombie corpse of Musical.ly though. Bytedance killed that to push TikTok as an all-encompasing short video social media platform.

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                              • cube_drone@mastodon.socialC cube_drone@mastodon.social

                                admittedly, commenting "this is racist misinformation" under videos just incentivizes The Algorithm to show me more of those videos and I have no way to control that with something as simple as a dislike button

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                                @cube_drone
                                Technically you can stop it (as the EU's Digital Services Act requires large social media platforms to have a toggle to turn off algorithmic feeds), however TikTok hides that multiple layers deep in their settings to not hurt their profits. (While in the process violating EU laws)

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                                • cube_drone@mastodon.socialC cube_drone@mastodon.social

                                  So, uh, I haven't... I haven't tried TikTok yet. I know, it's weird, I'm a grown-ass adult, and yet here we are.

                                  I just spent like 30 minutes browsing TikTok and honestly it explains _so much_ about why... well, everything is just LIKE this, now.

                                  it's... just wall-to-wall political misinformation, loud noises, boobs, kittens, AI slop, teenagers echoing white supremacist talking points, stunts, ads, get-rich-quick-schemes, it's like pure liquid USA

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                                  @cube_drone
                                  (low, soothing, half-whispered tones): Watch it

                                  Let it in...to your brain

                                  Become One with The Body

                                  America

                                  Fuck yeah

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                                  • neilk@xoxo.zoneN neilk@xoxo.zone

                                    @apike @cube_drone

                                    I don't think I am a good enough person to survive microseconds of reaction time being scrutinized. I will take 0.3 seconds more to swipe away when it's something I'm vulnerable to, and TikTok is there, going "noted. you want another one of those?? how about another? another?"

                                    That's the stuff I'm _consciously_ avoiding. There are more subtle traps, like feeding my rage addiction about legitimately bad things, or entrancing me with brainrot splitscreens

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                                    @neilk @apike I recall the feeling of relief when I started using mastodon and I realized I was looking at something incredibly stupid for a little too long , and I ... could? I could just look at something I didn't really like or want to commit to seeing Way More Of? After Facebook and Twitter the freedom of being able to choose what I want to see on my damn own felt heady and sorely missed

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                                    • the_moep@mastodon.deT the_moep@mastodon.de

                                      @moreentropy @cube_drone That was the zombie corpse of Musical.ly though. Bytedance killed that to push TikTok as an all-encompasing short video social media platform.

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                                      @the_moep TIL. That's sad.

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                                      • cube_drone@mastodon.socialC cube_drone@mastodon.social

                                        okays, basically every "old person discovers new media" experience is like this, right? "this is terrible, the kids these days are disrespectful young gits, they should appreciate art and literature not this loud noise and trash"

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                                        @cube_drone i had this experience when i was 19 and a group of coworkers bullied me into using snapchat and they had to spend like an hour explaining to me how it works bcs the entire concept of snapchat is just so fucking alien to how i want to live my life and while i do miss the people when i stopped working there, boy was i glad to get rid of that shit again.

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                                        • cube_drone@mastodon.socialC cube_drone@mastodon.social

                                          So, uh, I haven't... I haven't tried TikTok yet. I know, it's weird, I'm a grown-ass adult, and yet here we are.

                                          I just spent like 30 minutes browsing TikTok and honestly it explains _so much_ about why... well, everything is just LIKE this, now.

                                          it's... just wall-to-wall political misinformation, loud noises, boobs, kittens, AI slop, teenagers echoing white supremacist talking points, stunts, ads, get-rich-quick-schemes, it's like pure liquid USA

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                                          I had to create a Facebook account for development. On the third login I got terrible right wing propaganda on top of my feed.
                                          It is all so f**king broken

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