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  • jfmezei@cosocial.caJ jfmezei@cosocial.ca

    Pakistan : no viable alternative to a peaceful settlement.

    Condemsn *initiation* of unwarranted attacks against Islamic Republic of Iran in violation of international law. Yet again, these attacks come at a time when new diplomatic efforts were under way to reach a peaceful and negotiated solution.

    Also condemns Iran's attacks to neighbouring countries, especially as many were helping initiate diplomatic negotiations.

    One Pakistani national in UAE was killed by these attacks.

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    Latvia at UN: For decades Iran has been a maligned destabilizing actor on the region. It has repeatedly and systematically violated its international obligations.

    So far, 100% speech has focused on Iran being a bad boy actor, fostering problems in region (Hamas, Houtis etc)..

    Joins call for immediate end oto hostilities. Condemns Iran's attack on neighbours.

    Not a single criticism of USA/Israel attack.

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    • jfmezei@cosocial.caJ jfmezei@cosocial.ca

      Pakistan : no viable alternative to a peaceful settlement.

      Condemsn *initiation* of unwarranted attacks against Islamic Republic of Iran in violation of international law. Yet again, these attacks come at a time when new diplomatic efforts were under way to reach a peaceful and negotiated solution.

      Also condemns Iran's attacks to neighbouring countries, especially as many were helping initiate diplomatic negotiations.

      One Pakistani national in UAE was killed by these attacks.

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      UK: Colleges, this is a fragile moment for the middle east.

      The United Kingdon played no role in the strikes against Iran. But we are under no illusion about the nature of the Iranian regime.

      Followed by condemnation of Iran's actions and behaviour and attacks on middle east countries.

      UK is participating in air defence of those middle east countries attacked by Iran.

      Puts onus on Iran to stop attacking countries as pre-requisite for diplomacy.

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      • jfmezei@cosocial.caJ jfmezei@cosocial.ca

        UK: Colleges, this is a fragile moment for the middle east.

        The United Kingdon played no role in the strikes against Iran. But we are under no illusion about the nature of the Iranian regime.

        Followed by condemnation of Iran's actions and behaviour and attacks on middle east countries.

        UK is participating in air defence of those middle east countries attacked by Iran.

        Puts onus on Iran to stop attacking countries as pre-requisite for diplomacy.

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        Iran at UN:

        Iran as inherent right to self defence. article 51 or UN charter. USA/Iraael have attacked residential areas. Hundreds of civilians killed or injued. Confirmed school bombing with over 100 children killed. It is a war crime.

        USA relied in misinformation to justify attack on Iran.

        Says both USA and Israel heads of state hacve openly stated regime change as goal. This is illegal under international Law.

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        • jfmezei@cosocial.caJ jfmezei@cosocial.ca

          Iran at UN:

          Iran as inherent right to self defence. article 51 or UN charter. USA/Iraael have attacked residential areas. Hundreds of civilians killed or injued. Confirmed school bombing with over 100 children killed. It is a war crime.

          USA relied in misinformation to justify attack on Iran.

          Says both USA and Israel heads of state hacve openly stated regime change as goal. This is illegal under international Law.

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          Iran (cont)
          neither USA nor Isarel actions qualify as "self defense" in the UN charter.

          All bases of the agressors shall be regarded as legitimate targets as part of Iran's llawful right to self defence.

          Iran was pursuing path of diplomacy.

          Israel succeeded in dragging the United States into the quagmire of war against Iran. USA seeking to expand scope of conflict by exploiting its bases in the Gulf region.

          uses expression "erosion of rule of law by the rule of force" a few times.

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          • jfmezei@cosocial.caJ jfmezei@cosocial.ca

            Iran (cont)
            neither USA nor Isarel actions qualify as "self defense" in the UN charter.

            All bases of the agressors shall be regarded as legitimate targets as part of Iran's llawful right to self defence.

            Iran was pursuing path of diplomacy.

            Israel succeeded in dragging the United States into the quagmire of war against Iran. USA seeking to expand scope of conflict by exploiting its bases in the Gulf region.

            uses expression "erosion of rule of law by the rule of force" a few times.

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            Iran (cont) USA dreamed of swallowing Iran and forcing the Islamic Republic into submission.

            Apart of battle of military technology, there is a battle of will, and in that battle the Islamic Rpublic of Iran will prevail.

            While Iran affirms its will to reach diplomatic solutions, diplomacy cannot happen during agression.

            Israel and United States have vio,ated international law, They must be held accountable. Until the agression ends, Iran has the rightto self defence.

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            • jfmezei@cosocial.caJ jfmezei@cosocial.ca

              Iran (cont) USA dreamed of swallowing Iran and forcing the Islamic Republic into submission.

              Apart of battle of military technology, there is a battle of will, and in that battle the Islamic Rpublic of Iran will prevail.

              While Iran affirms its will to reach diplomatic solutions, diplomacy cannot happen during agression.

              Israel and United States have vio,ated international law, They must be held accountable. Until the agression ends, Iran has the rightto self defence.

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              Isreal: Ambassador says Iran has been shouting" death to Isarel, death to America" for years. It is not anger of a radical fringe, it is state-sanctioned speech.

              Israel is targetting (same list as what USA stated, aka nuclear, missiles, and machinery to fuel terrososm in other countries).

              Israel states that Iran has built nuclear weapon (false).

              In last hour, Israel says Iranian missile struck civilian area om Tel Aviv. Killed at least one citizen.

              Say diplomacy was exchausted.

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              • jfmezei@cosocial.caJ jfmezei@cosocial.ca

                Isreal: Ambassador says Iran has been shouting" death to Isarel, death to America" for years. It is not anger of a radical fringe, it is state-sanctioned speech.

                Israel is targetting (same list as what USA stated, aka nuclear, missiles, and machinery to fuel terrososm in other countries).

                Israel states that Iran has built nuclear weapon (false).

                In last hour, Israel says Iranian missile struck civilian area om Tel Aviv. Killed at least one citizen.

                Say diplomacy was exchausted.

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                Isreal rubs Trump's back, thanking him.

                Complains that this week, many israelis will have to celebrate some Jewish holiday in a bomb shelter. hey guy, who started the war?

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                • jfmezei@cosocial.caJ jfmezei@cosocial.ca

                  Isreal rubs Trump's back, thanking him.

                  Complains that this week, many israelis will have to celebrate some Jewish holiday in a bomb shelter. hey guy, who started the war?

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                  Leage of Arab Nations: focus on criticising Israel on Palestine, refusal to sign NPT etc. Not affraid to speak "directly" instead of diplomatically.

                  But after that, does condemns Iran's attamncks on Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, UAE, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebanon. Blatant violation of territorial integrity of countries not participating in this war.

                  (though in fairness, many do host USA military bases).

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                  • jfmezei@cosocial.caJ jfmezei@cosocial.ca

                    Leage of Arab Nations: focus on criticising Israel on Palestine, refusal to sign NPT etc. Not affraid to speak "directly" instead of diplomatically.

                    But after that, does condemns Iran's attamncks on Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, UAE, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebanon. Blatant violation of territorial integrity of countries not participating in this war.

                    (though in fairness, many do host USA military bases).

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                    USA: "I wish to exercise my right of reply to the so-called representative of the Iranian regime". (this is VERY undiplomatic language)

                    The United States strongly rejects this ridiculous and frankly, farcical assertion that the United States actions are inconsistent with International Law.

                    For 47 years, the Iranian regime has chanted quote "death to America" at every turn, at every opening of its parliament. It has sought to eradicate the state of Israel <long list of rants/complaints).

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                    • jfmezei@cosocial.caJ jfmezei@cosocial.ca

                      USA: "I wish to exercise my right of reply to the so-called representative of the Iranian regime". (this is VERY undiplomatic language)

                      The United States strongly rejects this ridiculous and frankly, farcical assertion that the United States actions are inconsistent with International Law.

                      For 47 years, the Iranian regime has chanted quote "death to America" at every turn, at every opening of its parliament. It has sought to eradicate the state of Israel <long list of rants/complaints).

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                      Iran request the floor: Asks for representayive of the USA to be polite.

                      USA requests floor: "I will not dignify this with another response". (hint: he requested permission to respond and this was a response).

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                      • jfmezei@cosocial.caJ jfmezei@cosocial.ca

                        Iran request the floor: Asks for representayive of the USA to be polite.

                        USA requests floor: "I will not dignify this with another response". (hint: he requested permission to respond and this was a response).

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                        Security council is over.

                        What I draw from it is that the actual goal of United States and Israel is just to launch an attack with no pre-defined hard definition of what what will be considered success.

                        Declaring Khameini dead (whether true or not) may be their exit strategy to limit this to a well produced episode for Trump's Reality TV show without engaging in a war that would require Congress approval.

                        Possible "success" definition: No mention of Epstein for a day or two.

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