So much I love about this story.

[squared99@mstdn.squared99.com]

@chu Sounds like some dude at the SRAA does a lot of "harmless flirting".

[kerrymitchell@mastodon.social]

@chu I thought it was an interesting ad. I would guess it was perceived as too aggressive, not because it equates flirting with harassment, but because it calls out HR for protecting harassers. It does disparage a profession, although the Authority was apparently reluctant to state this in their argument. Maybe they felt HR was indefensible - Thomas would only have to show examples where HR failed to protect victims.

[dalias@hachyderm.io]

@chu Very much a "dudes who frequent airports" thing, especially.

[ighostrider@mastodon.social]

@chu an excellent result methinks!

[joehenzi@social.vivaldi.net]

@squared99 @chu Article mentions a work trip. Those are the ones I was abused on.

[jenzi@mastodon.social]

@KerryMitchell @chu lol, you're not supposed to mad at HR for covering up the abuse, the ones who got offended as you pointed out, the target of this ad - you're supposed to make it about men and be gendered about it - the lawsuit CLEARLY is men protecting their right to sexually harass people, that's what the article says, that's what they said and are quoted saying - that's why men sued to take it down. Men are agains this - haven't you been TOLD to believe this yet?? Aren't you raping now?

[cstamp@mastodon.social]

@KerryMitchell @chu HR famously protects companies over employees, especially when it’s women complaining about harassment.

This is only “aggressive” to those who are defending sexual harassment.

[celeste_42bit@infosec.exchange]

@chu To "tone it down"... what part of the ad is supposed to be offensive to anyone?! Like wtf. That's just peak "shut your mouth, woman" mentality by the airport.
So glad the court ruled in her favor.

[kerrymitchell@mastodon.social]

@CStamp @chu Yes, I agree. The ad copy doesn’t expressly say “flirting = harassment” it says that if HR is dismissive of your harassment complaint you should call Thomas, a lawyer.

Somebody at the authority took exception to the message, but their choice was to make the argument that the ad goes too far in equating flirting with harassment, and to suggest that the message was disparaging without specifically identifying the disparaged party.

[chu@climatejustice.social]

@KerryMitchell @CStamp

Probably some dude in HR that got this ad killed. Or some dude who likes to harass women

[jenzi@mastodon.social]

@chu @KerryMitchell @CStamp Social media is cancer.

[jenzi@mastodon.social]

@celeste_42bit What's important is that if there is no gender war, we invent one.

[chu@climatejustice.social]

@JoeHenzi @squared99

Sorry to hear.

[kerrymitchell@mastodon.social]

@chu @CStamp I suspect that whoever reviews ads for the authority tried to apply “within the organization” standards to material for the general public.

It’s ingrained in organizations that HR will deal objectively with complaints, and even people who know it’s a fiction see it as a necessary one to protect the organization from legal actions.

Maybe a really sexist person would misinterpret the ad and feel called out for “harmless flirting” but it depends on a misreading.

[joehenzi@social.vivaldi.net]

@chu @squared99 No, it's okay - it's allowed.

[davidr@hachyderm.io]

@KerryMitchell @chu It doesn't disparage "HR" either. The ad uses a verb tense that appears to refer to a single real case.

It isn't: When HR calls it .... we call it

It is: When HR called it ... we called it

[kerrymitchell@mastodon.social]

@davidr @chu No - the need for the ad suggests that multiple people will find themselves in this position and want to seek assistance from a lawyer. It’s supposed to be a relatable scenario.

[cstamp@mastodon.social]

@KerryMitchell @chu It is quite simple: Women are people. Treat women co-workers and employees as people, not possible conquests.

[cstamp@mastodon.social]

@jenzi @chu @KerryMitchell Social media has connected and given a voice to communities that in the past have been silenced. It has given some an opportunity to learn about the world from different points of view.

The cancer is in those using it for harm and self-aggrandizing.

[cstamp@mastodon.social]

@KerryMitchell @chu A big problem is that when one goes to HR to complain about sexual harassment, that person gets labeled as “difficult.”