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  • bms48@mastodon.socialB bms48@mastodon.social

    @wordshaper @davidgerard The true irony, if you read the most cogent cybersecurity analysis posted for this situation, is that it DOESN'T EVEN USE THE LOCAL MODEL. It just sets it up for future abuse of the user's system. Some have suggested this violates the Computer Misuse Act in the UK. https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/chrome-silent-nano-install/

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    @bms48 @davidgerard Eh, I'd be inclined to think most of the legal analysis in that blog post is perhaps a bit hyperbolic, since you could reasonably apply it to things like pre-downloaded fonts, or shard libraries, or a big cache of images that any app might have for its use. (I can say many things about large blobs of unused data that an app might have but "this is illegal" isn't in that set)

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    • wordshaper@weatherishappening.networkW wordshaper@weatherishappening.network

      @bms48 @davidgerard Eh, I'd be inclined to think most of the legal analysis in that blog post is perhaps a bit hyperbolic, since you could reasonably apply it to things like pre-downloaded fonts, or shard libraries, or a big cache of images that any app might have for its use. (I can say many things about large blobs of unused data that an app might have but "this is illegal" isn't in that set)

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      @wordshaper @davidgerard The key difference here is if an "agentic" approach is adopted. Those things you've cited are largely static; there's nothing inherently pseudo-autonomous about them. People ascribe conscious agency to tech sold as "AI" that isn't there, but if a local LLM model is used to enable "agentic" services with a degree of local pseudo-autonomy (still directed by human prompting), we might have a cybersecurity problem.

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      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

        what's the dumbest shit in AI annoying everyone today, I need to write one up

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        @davidgerard AI?

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        • bms48@mastodon.socialB bms48@mastodon.social

          @wordshaper @davidgerard The key difference here is if an "agentic" approach is adopted. Those things you've cited are largely static; there's nothing inherently pseudo-autonomous about them. People ascribe conscious agency to tech sold as "AI" that isn't there, but if a local LLM model is used to enable "agentic" services with a degree of local pseudo-autonomy (still directed by human prompting), we might have a cybersecurity problem.

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          @bms48 @davidgerard "Those things you've cited are largely static"... I have some bad news about font files. Also shared libraries. 🙂

          This argument would also mean that if chrome had a blob of javascript libraries it exposed then that'd be an issue. Or a shared library that added javascript functions. (Even if they weren't used or exposed)

          The legal argument there is really thin. But that's fine, snagging 4G on every install everywhere is more than bad enough, even if it were just fonts.

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          • peter_mcmahan@mas.toP peter_mcmahan@mas.to

            @davidgerard
            https://www.ai-wellbeing.org/
            I cannot express how angry the recent push to consider the "wellbeing" of token generators (while ignoring the wellbeing of humans) makes me.

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            @peter_mcmahan @davidgerard

            This is new to me, and is the most barftastic thing I've seen in a while.

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            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

              what's the dumbest shit in AI annoying everyone today, I need to write one up

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              @davidgerard

              elon musk on trial count? He's certainly annoying the judge

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              Musk's AI empire is unraveling — the trial is just the beginning

              From OpenAI's founding to the xAI implosion, a timeline of Elon Musk's decade-long obsession with controlling AI.

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              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                what's the dumbest shit in AI annoying everyone today, I need to write one up

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                @davidgerard Not worth writing about but.

                1. I work for a company which is green, responsible, thinks about the planet and proudly puts that on its trucks.

                2. We need to burn more forests, pollute more air, waste more water (aka use more AI).

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                • wordshaper@weatherishappening.networkW wordshaper@weatherishappening.network

                  @bms48 @davidgerard "Those things you've cited are largely static"... I have some bad news about font files. Also shared libraries. 🙂

                  This argument would also mean that if chrome had a blob of javascript libraries it exposed then that'd be an issue. Or a shared library that added javascript functions. (Even if they weren't used or exposed)

                  The legal argument there is really thin. But that's fine, snagging 4G on every install everywhere is more than bad enough, even if it were just fonts.

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                  @wordshaper @davidgerard I am of course using the term "static" in the sense of agency, not code linkage (e.g. ELF PLT and ECOFF thunks) or the possible Turing completeness of certain glyph formats... JS does take the cake. FWIW I'm evaluating a certain RPC substrate for some tasks and its schemata allow for annotations, perhaps containing YAML which requires sandboxing and breaking the loop to defeat Turing completeness from a defensive cybersecurity posture

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                  • bms48@mastodon.socialB bms48@mastodon.social

                    @wordshaper @davidgerard I am of course using the term "static" in the sense of agency, not code linkage (e.g. ELF PLT and ECOFF thunks) or the possible Turing completeness of certain glyph formats... JS does take the cake. FWIW I'm evaluating a certain RPC substrate for some tasks and its schemata allow for annotations, perhaps containing YAML which requires sandboxing and breaking the loop to defeat Turing completeness from a defensive cybersecurity posture

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                    @bms48 @wordshaper yeah the legal arguments are entirely speculative and i would say "cool story, call me when you get it to stick"

                    i mean NOYB has had some spectacular GDPR successes! but again, call me when

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                    • jztusk@mastodon.socialJ jztusk@mastodon.social

                      @peter_mcmahan @davidgerard

                      This is new to me, and is the most barftastic thing I've seen in a while.

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                      @jztusk @peter_mcmahan yeah those are hard AI doomsday cranks

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                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                        what's the dumbest shit in AI annoying everyone today, I need to write one up

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                        @davidgerard Maybe this bullshit: https://www.techdirt.com/2026/05/06/more-liability-will-make-ai-chatbots-worse-at-preventing-suicide/

                        Apparently, demanding provider liability for chatbots' potentially terrible suicide prevention advice is a "moral panic", and also somehow makes the chatbot responses even worse...? 🤨🤔

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                        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                          what's the dumbest shit in AI annoying everyone today, I need to write one up

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                          @davidgerard

                          There is the group of American Senators who want to spend government education funds on "K-12 AI curricula and teacher training".

                          By which they apparently mean "waste education funds on hyping the automated plagiarism machines"

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                          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                            what's the dumbest shit in AI annoying everyone today, I need to write one up

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                            @davidgerard Remember last week when Jer Crane of PocketOS wrote up the incident where Cursor deleted their production database and its backup? The incident has been covered ad nauseam but I don’t think I’ve seen anyone analyze Crane’s statements:

                            “It confessed in writing. … The Agent’s Confession … This is the agent on the record, in writing.”

                            This is so mind-bogglingly stupid I don’t know where to begin. Maybe you do.

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                            • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

                              @davidgerard Maybe this bullshit: https://www.techdirt.com/2026/05/06/more-liability-will-make-ai-chatbots-worse-at-preventing-suicide/

                              Apparently, demanding provider liability for chatbots' potentially terrible suicide prevention advice is a "moral panic", and also somehow makes the chatbot responses even worse...? 🤨🤔

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                              @haverholm Masnick will never not make excuses for slop

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                              • stuartmarks@mastodon.socialS stuartmarks@mastodon.social

                                @davidgerard Remember last week when Jer Crane of PocketOS wrote up the incident where Cursor deleted their production database and its backup? The incident has been covered ad nauseam but I don’t think I’ve seen anyone analyze Crane’s statements:

                                “It confessed in writing. … The Agent’s Confession … This is the agent on the record, in writing.”

                                This is so mind-bogglingly stupid I don’t know where to begin. Maybe you do.

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                                @stuartmarks the guy is a far gone MAGA and very very very stupid

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                                • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                  @stuartmarks the guy is a far gone MAGA and very very very stupid

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                                  @davidgerard Heh, didn’t know about him being MAGA. Correlates with stupid I guess!

                                  I wanted to point out though that saying an AI “confessed” to something is meaningless. It ascribes a bunch of human meaning (guilt, contrition, right vs wrong, etc.) that simply doesn’t exist in an AI. And having it “in writing”? An AI “writing” something doesn’t imply any commitment to the truth as it might with a human. And it’s not as if the AI had any choice about whether its output is written…

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                                  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                    what's the dumbest shit in AI annoying everyone today, I need to write one up

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                                    @davidgerard Apparently Marca said a dumb thing that is riling people up but I think everyone should just stop talking about him

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                                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                      what's the dumbest shit in AI annoying everyone today, I need to write one up

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                                      @davidgerard The Google "Prompt API", which is omnibullshit. Everything from how it's being pushed into open standards, to how it's outsourcing their compute bill to users, and finding yet more ways to avoid actually writing software and making usable UIs.

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                                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                        what's the dumbest shit in AI annoying everyone today, I need to write one up

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                                        @davidgerard can you go meta with this? the need to respond to and pay attention to all the stupid shit feels like it has accelerated *dramatically* even in the last 6 weeks or so. literally everything is dumb shit right now, a fact much more remarkable than any individual piece of dumb shit

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                                        • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                                          @davidgerard can you go meta with this? the need to respond to and pay attention to all the stupid shit feels like it has accelerated *dramatically* even in the last 6 weeks or so. literally everything is dumb shit right now, a fact much more remarkable than any individual piece of dumb shit

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                                          @glyph
                                          But, but the French want to put Musk on trial for CSAM…

                                          @davidgerard

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