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I don't understand the Iran war by the US, I'm guessing I'm just ignorant.

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  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

    I don't understand the Iran war by the US, I'm guessing I'm just ignorant.

    As far as I can see they've assassinated the leader of Iran and his whole family, except his son, then got his very angry son elected as leader... then declared victory and said it's over?

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    @GossiTheDog No no no, they went short and now collected their Billions on Stock Exchange. For them it's over now, the remaining fallout can now be handled by others.

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    • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

      @GossiTheDog my theory is that trump saw it as a get rich quick scheme that went out of hand.

      They take Venezuela's oil, to prepare for this war. They start a war, knowing the price of oil would skyrocket. And just like in 2008, they figured they would capitalize on that, while also giving lockheed, raytheon, and every other military industrial complex power free money. Then whoever they'd appoint for civil infrastructure replacement would earn a fat contract, we'd sit on it for years like we did last time, until the president needs a PR boost, pull out, and destabilize the region again.

      So, they start a fight with Iran, fail to realize that the straight is crippling the global economy, ours included, because we rely on global trade, even with the other oil they stole, and are finding out that Iran has been ready for a protracted war for a very long time.

      I feel like my theory holds weight, because Trump walked into the middle east with no plan according to several sources, and now that Iran is doing a pretty good job of fighting back and spamming cheap drones everywhere, destroying even more regional infrastructure, he's realized he's fucked up. Nobody wants to go back to the sandbox again, which is why all of his former allies are telling us to go fuck ourselves. Rightly so.

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      @da_667 @GossiTheDog

      TL;DR: Everything looks simple when you're an idiot and don't understand how anything works.

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      • davemwilburn@infosec.exchangeD davemwilburn@infosec.exchange

        @da_667 @GossiTheDog

        TL;DR: Everything looks simple when you're an idiot and don't understand how anything works.

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        @DaveMWilburn @GossiTheDog also: it turns out that acting like a complete shithead and trying to annex several of your allies, and fuck over several more with terrible policies doesn't win you any friends or allies.

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        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

          I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

          Like - what is the plan here?

          There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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          @GossiTheDog It is best to ignore the noise. As long as you keep in mind that Trump is a Kremlin asset and Russia's economy is heavily reliant on oil, everything starts to make sense.

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          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

            I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

            Like - what is the plan here?

            There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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            @GossiTheDog

            Bold of you to assume there was a plan.

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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

              Like - what is the plan here?

              There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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              @GossiTheDog They didn't declare war. Only the US Congress can declare war and nobody asked them. It's just a, uhm, "special military operation", let's say.

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              • djgummikuh@mastodon.socialD djgummikuh@mastodon.social

                @GossiTheDog there is no plan. Trump simply wanted to prevent the press from looking too much at the Epstein files, which is why I find it extraordinarily funny that the name of the operation in the Internet was announced to be "Epstein Fury" 🤣

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                @DJGummikuh Wasn't it "Epstein Furry"? Makes more sense, given Trump's lush mop of hair! @GossiTheDog

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                • reggiehere@mastodon.socialR reggiehere@mastodon.social

                  @GossiTheDog

                  From what I can work out, Israel coerced the US into joining them in attacking Iran, which was to be followed by Plan A: US- and Israel-loving Iranian people rising up to remove the regime and install a Western-backed Iranian Monarch.

                  Plan B was to call on the Kurds to rise up and remove the regime....

                  Plan C seems to be to call on NATO countries to risk civil war at home to join the US and Israel in a medieval-style religious Crusade.

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                  @ReggieHere @GossiTheDog Umm he also asked China to help 🤦

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                  • jt_rebelo@ciberlandia.ptJ jt_rebelo@ciberlandia.pt

                    @GossiTheDog there's no plan, only concepts of a plan.
                    Now on a more serious note, they don't know because their handlers (Thiel, Putin, Netanyahu, etc.) haven't told them yet.

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                    @jt_rebelo @GossiTheDog Just logical flaw in idea rational handlers are involved. There would be more coherence then IMO.

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                    • cliffsesport@mastodon.socialC cliffsesport@mastodon.social

                      @jt_rebelo @GossiTheDog Just logical flaw in idea rational handlers are involved. There would be more coherence then IMO.

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                      @CliffsEsport I didn't say the handlers are rational. War criminals like Putin and deviants like Peter Thiel and many others of the Epstein class aren't rational. They might be cunning, but it stems from their psychopathic ideations, not from rationality.
                      @GossiTheDog

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                      • cliffsesport@mastodon.socialC cliffsesport@mastodon.social

                        @ReggieHere @GossiTheDog Umm he also asked China to help 🤦

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                        @CliffsEsport

                        Yes. Difficult to know whether he's a useful idiot or a regular idiot.

                        @GossiTheDog

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                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                          I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                          Like - what is the plan here?

                          There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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                          @GossiTheDog There is no plan. There was no plan in Iraq or Gaza. US presidents just do whatever Netanyahu says.

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                          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                            I still don't understand the US war on Iran. They declared war, then said it wasn't a war, then it was, then it wasn't, then it was, then declared victory, said Iran's military was totally disabled.. and now they're begging for help from the rest of the world as things keep getting blown up?

                            Like - what is the plan here?

                            There's not point asking the UK for help, we probably sold all our boats to Lidl.

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                            @GossiTheDog vibe-warring was the plan.

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