I managed to get my close family using #Matrix for communication, we have been using it for about 6yrs.
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I managed to get my close family using #Matrix for communication, we have been using it for about 6yrs. For the most part, it has worked pretty well!
But the 2 biggest complaints I have are:
1) key mgmt is soooo hard for people who are "non-technical" to understand and do consistently. So many times someone got a new phone, traded in the old then couldn't read old messages on Matrix
2) Android matrix app notifications are totally busted for several folks. We can't rely on this for fast comm.
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I managed to get my close family using #Matrix for communication, we have been using it for about 6yrs. For the most part, it has worked pretty well!
But the 2 biggest complaints I have are:
1) key mgmt is soooo hard for people who are "non-technical" to understand and do consistently. So many times someone got a new phone, traded in the old then couldn't read old messages on Matrix
2) Android matrix app notifications are totally busted for several folks. We can't rely on this for fast comm.
"but what about xmpp?"
We did that for about 3 years before moving to Matrix. At the time, OMEMO support was quite rough, especially on iOS. And XEP support was hit/miss for various clients that people would install.
Every time I ask folks to switch to some new chat tech, I burn some serious "capital" with the family. So like, I gotta be 200% confident the new thing we switch to is better at meeting our requirements

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"but what about xmpp?"
We did that for about 3 years before moving to Matrix. At the time, OMEMO support was quite rough, especially on iOS. And XEP support was hit/miss for various clients that people would install.
Every time I ask folks to switch to some new chat tech, I burn some serious "capital" with the family. So like, I gotta be 200% confident the new thing we switch to is better at meeting our requirements

@craftyguy Have you tried it ever since? 6 years is a very long time. Snikket is probably best for a usecase like yours.
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I managed to get my close family using #Matrix for communication, we have been using it for about 6yrs. For the most part, it has worked pretty well!
But the 2 biggest complaints I have are:
1) key mgmt is soooo hard for people who are "non-technical" to understand and do consistently. So many times someone got a new phone, traded in the old then couldn't read old messages on Matrix
2) Android matrix app notifications are totally busted for several folks. We can't rely on this for fast comm.
@craftyguy@freeradical.zone same here, but not yet six years
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I managed to get my close family using #Matrix for communication, we have been using it for about 6yrs. For the most part, it has worked pretty well!
But the 2 biggest complaints I have are:
1) key mgmt is soooo hard for people who are "non-technical" to understand and do consistently. So many times someone got a new phone, traded in the old then couldn't read old messages on Matrix
2) Android matrix app notifications are totally busted for several folks. We can't rely on this for fast comm.
@craftyguy Backing up the recovery key to a password manager works but making people use a password manager... That's a challenge in itself
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I managed to get my close family using #Matrix for communication, we have been using it for about 6yrs. For the most part, it has worked pretty well!
But the 2 biggest complaints I have are:
1) key mgmt is soooo hard for people who are "non-technical" to understand and do consistently. So many times someone got a new phone, traded in the old then couldn't read old messages on Matrix
2) Android matrix app notifications are totally busted for several folks. We can't rely on this for fast comm.
@craftyguy
In my experience the google-push service works quite well with the playstore element-x version.
I dont know whats wrong with unified push, but it never worked relaible for me with matrix. -
I managed to get my close family using #Matrix for communication, we have been using it for about 6yrs. For the most part, it has worked pretty well!
But the 2 biggest complaints I have are:
1) key mgmt is soooo hard for people who are "non-technical" to understand and do consistently. So many times someone got a new phone, traded in the old then couldn't read old messages on Matrix
2) Android matrix app notifications are totally busted for several folks. We can't rely on this for fast comm.
@craftyguy have you found 2 to be true when using exclusively your own server? And is it an issue with multiple clients, or just ElementX?
Idly wondering if I should try Fluffychat again after dealing with delayed notifications every few weeks on my de-Googled Android

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