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I managed to get my close family using #Matrix for communication, we have been using it for about 6yrs.

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  • craftyguy@freeradical.zoneC This user is from outside of this forum
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    I managed to get my close family using #Matrix for communication, we have been using it for about 6yrs. For the most part, it has worked pretty well!

    But the 2 biggest complaints I have are:

    1) key mgmt is soooo hard for people who are "non-technical" to understand and do consistently. So many times someone got a new phone, traded in the old then couldn't read old messages on Matrix

    2) Android matrix app notifications are totally busted for several folks. We can't rely on this for fast comm.

    craftyguy@freeradical.zoneC me@chrichri.ween.deM przmk@fosstodon.orgP homo_particeps@fosstodon.orgH xethos@mastodon.xethos.netX 5 Replies Last reply
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    • craftyguy@freeradical.zoneC craftyguy@freeradical.zone

      I managed to get my close family using #Matrix for communication, we have been using it for about 6yrs. For the most part, it has worked pretty well!

      But the 2 biggest complaints I have are:

      1) key mgmt is soooo hard for people who are "non-technical" to understand and do consistently. So many times someone got a new phone, traded in the old then couldn't read old messages on Matrix

      2) Android matrix app notifications are totally busted for several folks. We can't rely on this for fast comm.

      craftyguy@freeradical.zoneC This user is from outside of this forum
      craftyguy@freeradical.zoneC This user is from outside of this forum
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      "but what about xmpp?"

      We did that for about 3 years before moving to Matrix. At the time, OMEMO support was quite rough, especially on iOS. And XEP support was hit/miss for various clients that people would install.

      Every time I ask folks to switch to some new chat tech, I burn some serious "capital" with the family. So like, I gotta be 200% confident the new thing we switch to is better at meeting our requirements πŸ˜…

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        "but what about xmpp?"

        We did that for about 3 years before moving to Matrix. At the time, OMEMO support was quite rough, especially on iOS. And XEP support was hit/miss for various clients that people would install.

        Every time I ask folks to switch to some new chat tech, I burn some serious "capital" with the family. So like, I gotta be 200% confident the new thing we switch to is better at meeting our requirements πŸ˜…

        lenni@fosstodon.orgL This user is from outside of this forum
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        @craftyguy Have you tried it ever since? 6 years is a very long time. Snikket is probably best for a usecase like yours.

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        • craftyguy@freeradical.zoneC craftyguy@freeradical.zone

          I managed to get my close family using #Matrix for communication, we have been using it for about 6yrs. For the most part, it has worked pretty well!

          But the 2 biggest complaints I have are:

          1) key mgmt is soooo hard for people who are "non-technical" to understand and do consistently. So many times someone got a new phone, traded in the old then couldn't read old messages on Matrix

          2) Android matrix app notifications are totally busted for several folks. We can't rely on this for fast comm.

          me@chrichri.ween.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @craftyguy@freeradical.zone same here, but not yet six years πŸ™ƒ. Those two issues stop me from promoting matrix to more people.

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          • craftyguy@freeradical.zoneC craftyguy@freeradical.zone

            I managed to get my close family using #Matrix for communication, we have been using it for about 6yrs. For the most part, it has worked pretty well!

            But the 2 biggest complaints I have are:

            1) key mgmt is soooo hard for people who are "non-technical" to understand and do consistently. So many times someone got a new phone, traded in the old then couldn't read old messages on Matrix

            2) Android matrix app notifications are totally busted for several folks. We can't rely on this for fast comm.

            przmk@fosstodon.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
            przmk@fosstodon.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
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            @craftyguy Backing up the recovery key to a password manager works but making people use a password manager... That's a challenge in itself

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            • craftyguy@freeradical.zoneC craftyguy@freeradical.zone

              I managed to get my close family using #Matrix for communication, we have been using it for about 6yrs. For the most part, it has worked pretty well!

              But the 2 biggest complaints I have are:

              1) key mgmt is soooo hard for people who are "non-technical" to understand and do consistently. So many times someone got a new phone, traded in the old then couldn't read old messages on Matrix

              2) Android matrix app notifications are totally busted for several folks. We can't rely on this for fast comm.

              homo_particeps@fosstodon.orgH This user is from outside of this forum
              homo_particeps@fosstodon.orgH This user is from outside of this forum
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              @craftyguy
              In my experience the google-push service works quite well with the playstore element-x version.
              I dont know whats wrong with unified push, but it never worked relaible for me with matrix.

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              • craftyguy@freeradical.zoneC craftyguy@freeradical.zone

                I managed to get my close family using #Matrix for communication, we have been using it for about 6yrs. For the most part, it has worked pretty well!

                But the 2 biggest complaints I have are:

                1) key mgmt is soooo hard for people who are "non-technical" to understand and do consistently. So many times someone got a new phone, traded in the old then couldn't read old messages on Matrix

                2) Android matrix app notifications are totally busted for several folks. We can't rely on this for fast comm.

                xethos@mastodon.xethos.netX This user is from outside of this forum
                xethos@mastodon.xethos.netX This user is from outside of this forum
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                @craftyguy have you found 2 to be true when using exclusively your own server? And is it an issue with multiple clients, or just ElementX?

                Idly wondering if I should try Fluffychat again after dealing with delayed notifications every few weeks on my de-Googled Android πŸ€”

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