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This is absolute fire!

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    This is absolute fire!

    Our societies have, even as women fought for and gained rights, stubbornly rooted men’s identities around women’s dependence (providing), vulnerability (protecting), and submission (presiding). These identities depend on and are supposed to garner, for men, priority and centrality by default. Being a man has historically meant being recognized for fulfilling these roles, even among men oppressed because of race or other factors.

    As a result, when women withdraw recognition, when free women determine the course of their own lives, men and the larger society perceive their independence as an attack and as hatred of men. If women center themselves and opt out of - either through choice or necessity — men providing, protecting, and presiding for them, it’s a confusing dilemma at best and an existential problem that cultivates violence backlash at worst.

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    On decentering men, loneliness, men's desire for recognition, and why persistently misdiagnosing men's crises is making everything worse for everyone

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      This is absolute fire!

      Our societies have, even as women fought for and gained rights, stubbornly rooted men’s identities around women’s dependence (providing), vulnerability (protecting), and submission (presiding). These identities depend on and are supposed to garner, for men, priority and centrality by default. Being a man has historically meant being recognized for fulfilling these roles, even among men oppressed because of race or other factors.

      As a result, when women withdraw recognition, when free women determine the course of their own lives, men and the larger society perceive their independence as an attack and as hatred of men. If women center themselves and opt out of - either through choice or necessity — men providing, protecting, and presiding for them, it’s a confusing dilemma at best and an existential problem that cultivates violence backlash at worst.

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      26. No One Told Men the Floor Was Made of Women

      On decentering men, loneliness, men's desire for recognition, and why persistently misdiagnosing men's crises is making everything worse for everyone

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      (sorayachemaly.substack.com)

      #Women #Men #Feminism

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      @moriel "The goal is not to replace male centrality with female centrality, a patriarchal frame, but to dissolve the systems that require anyone’s subordination as the cost of someone else’s identity, safety, and well-being." ✊

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      • moriel@chaosfem.twM moriel@chaosfem.tw

        This is absolute fire!

        Our societies have, even as women fought for and gained rights, stubbornly rooted men’s identities around women’s dependence (providing), vulnerability (protecting), and submission (presiding). These identities depend on and are supposed to garner, for men, priority and centrality by default. Being a man has historically meant being recognized for fulfilling these roles, even among men oppressed because of race or other factors.

        As a result, when women withdraw recognition, when free women determine the course of their own lives, men and the larger society perceive their independence as an attack and as hatred of men. If women center themselves and opt out of - either through choice or necessity — men providing, protecting, and presiding for them, it’s a confusing dilemma at best and an existential problem that cultivates violence backlash at worst.

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        26. No One Told Men the Floor Was Made of Women

        On decentering men, loneliness, men's desire for recognition, and why persistently misdiagnosing men's crises is making everything worse for everyone

        favicon

        (sorayachemaly.substack.com)

        #Women #Men #Feminism

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        More from the same article:

        To flog what should be a very dead horse, women self-segregating is not the same as men self-segregating. Men’s self-segregated fraternities have historically functioned — as they do today — to consolidate power and exclude others. Women’s self-segregation, on the other hand, generally works to provide women with temporary relief from the consequences of that power. Pretending these are mirror-image phenomena is, frankly, stupid, no matter how many legal or intellectual rationales might be used.

        The same can be said, by the way, about Black people and other racial minorities, not just women. When marginalized people self segregate it is because they need to provide safe spaces for them to exist in. When powerful people self segregate it is to preserve their power and exclude others from gaining that power.

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