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Here’s the thing you need to know about people who transitioned as adults: their transition is probably a truly epic saga.

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  • willow@chaosfem.twW willow@chaosfem.tw

    Trans folks, if you are so inclined, please feel free to share your story.

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    @Willow Someday if I can write it down as a coherent narrative, maybe. I’m still very much reevaluating half a century of memories in the context of “I was trans the whole time.”

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    • willow@chaosfem.twW willow@chaosfem.tw

      Trans folks, if you are so inclined, please feel free to share your story.

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      @Willow Summer. 1993. I was 13.

      Puberty hit me hard between grades 7 and 8. Fast. Ugly.

      I was mistaken for my dad on the phone. Adam's apple to next week. Hair already giving away the fact I'll go bald. I hated every moment of it, way more than the other boys.

      It hit so hard, in fact, that my pituitary gland had to balance my body out with estrogen, with an unexpected side effect: hard lumps under my nipples.

      The doctor said it was temporary, puberty-induced gynecomastia, and that it would go away in about 6–12 months. Most boys would probably be elated and play video games. I walked out of his office numb. And that numbness bothered me. In fact, it bothered me the rest of the day.

      You see, I was a kid who ideated suicide a lot, very quietly. My parents screamed and fought constantly. I was viciously abused at school for my high marks and my (unaware-to-me) queerness. I was used to the numbness of wanting to cease.

      This wasn't that. This numbness pulled. At my mind. The rest of the day. And it wouldn't leave

      I went to sleep bothered not to be able to figure it out, like a limb that fell asleep that won't wake up. I eventually decided to try to sleep and worry about it the next day. My brain went quiet. Until:

      “Oh,” a little, calm, rational voice — my voice — said, “you have little breast buds and you don't want to lose them.

      But. You're going to. And that hurts. That's the problem.”

      That voice was tiny, but it split my brain like a thundercrack. I immediately knew.

      I was a girl.

      I cried silently in my bed for what seemed like hours. It wasn't a mistake, what this voice said. But God wouldn't fuck up this bad. Science wouldn't fuck up this bad. There has to be something.

      What can I do?

      What… could I do?

      There's… nothing I could do.

      I cried myself to sleep knowing who I was, but more trapped than I could imagine.

      That's the story of discovery. I'll write more later.

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      • willow@chaosfem.twW willow@chaosfem.tw

        Here’s the thing you need to know about people who transitioned as adults: their transition is probably a truly epic saga. They might be the most basic person ever, and they might not tell you their story, but it’s there.

        Maybe it’s about the extremes they reached running from their dysphoria. Maybe it’s an intricate web of relationships and pain and sorrow. Maybe it’s an internal tale of descending into themselves to battle daemons that society itself cursed them with.

        Transition is wild, yo.

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        @Willow the only "epic saga" at this time is the one my parents say they have to embark upon before they can stop misgendering me

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        • willow@chaosfem.twW willow@chaosfem.tw

          Here’s the thing you need to know about people who transitioned as adults: their transition is probably a truly epic saga. They might be the most basic person ever, and they might not tell you their story, but it’s there.

          Maybe it’s about the extremes they reached running from their dysphoria. Maybe it’s an intricate web of relationships and pain and sorrow. Maybe it’s an internal tale of descending into themselves to battle daemons that society itself cursed them with.

          Transition is wild, yo.

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          #18

          @Willow I built an extra floor on my house, so desperate was I for something to feel better about myself "for some reason". Also I am an idiot.

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          • foritus@toot.dusepo.co.ukF foritus@toot.dusepo.co.uk

            @Willow I built an extra floor on my house, so desperate was I for something to feel better about myself "for some reason". Also I am an idiot.

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            @Willow I guess on the upside I can enjoy a warm cocoa from what I now think of as my dysphoria-tower.

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            • undercat@mastodon.sdf.orgU undercat@mastodon.sdf.org

              @Willow Someday if I can write it down as a coherent narrative, maybe. I’m still very much reevaluating half a century of memories in the context of “I was trans the whole time.”

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              #20

              @Undercat @Willow You too, huh? I suspect mine would be at least 30% flashbacks by volume.

              I could write it as a linear timeline, but a dry retelling of the facts just wouldn't convey the impact of that realisation. The series of "wait, was that..?" and "now that makes sense" moments that just keep compounding, not to mention the growing collection of "did I even hear the words coming out of my own mouth?!"

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              • foritus@toot.dusepo.co.ukF foritus@toot.dusepo.co.uk

                @Willow I built an extra floor on my house, so desperate was I for something to feel better about myself "for some reason". Also I am an idiot.

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                #21

                @Foritus @Willow

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                • kats@chaosfem.twK kats@chaosfem.tw

                  @Foritus @Willow

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                  @KatS @Willow thank you

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                  • jenwithgravy@chaosfem.twJ jenwithgravy@chaosfem.tw

                    @Willow Summer. 1993. I was 13.

                    Puberty hit me hard between grades 7 and 8. Fast. Ugly.

                    I was mistaken for my dad on the phone. Adam's apple to next week. Hair already giving away the fact I'll go bald. I hated every moment of it, way more than the other boys.

                    It hit so hard, in fact, that my pituitary gland had to balance my body out with estrogen, with an unexpected side effect: hard lumps under my nipples.

                    The doctor said it was temporary, puberty-induced gynecomastia, and that it would go away in about 6–12 months. Most boys would probably be elated and play video games. I walked out of his office numb. And that numbness bothered me. In fact, it bothered me the rest of the day.

                    You see, I was a kid who ideated suicide a lot, very quietly. My parents screamed and fought constantly. I was viciously abused at school for my high marks and my (unaware-to-me) queerness. I was used to the numbness of wanting to cease.

                    This wasn't that. This numbness pulled. At my mind. The rest of the day. And it wouldn't leave

                    I went to sleep bothered not to be able to figure it out, like a limb that fell asleep that won't wake up. I eventually decided to try to sleep and worry about it the next day. My brain went quiet. Until:

                    “Oh,” a little, calm, rational voice — my voice — said, “you have little breast buds and you don't want to lose them.

                    But. You're going to. And that hurts. That's the problem.”

                    That voice was tiny, but it split my brain like a thundercrack. I immediately knew.

                    I was a girl.

                    I cried silently in my bed for what seemed like hours. It wasn't a mistake, what this voice said. But God wouldn't fuck up this bad. Science wouldn't fuck up this bad. There has to be something.

                    What can I do?

                    What… could I do?

                    There's… nothing I could do.

                    I cried myself to sleep knowing who I was, but more trapped than I could imagine.

                    That's the story of discovery. I'll write more later.

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                    @JenWithGravy @Willow I also had some breast buds come in during first puberty. I never said anything to anyone though. I also never connected it with the fantasies I had about growing breasts 🤷‍♀️

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                    • eruonna@chaosfem.twE eruonna@chaosfem.tw

                      @JenWithGravy @Willow I also had some breast buds come in during first puberty. I never said anything to anyone though. I also never connected it with the fantasies I had about growing breasts 🤷‍♀️

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                      @eruonna Hugs offered, if wanted. 🩵

                      @Willow

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                      • jenwithgravy@chaosfem.twJ jenwithgravy@chaosfem.tw

                        @Willow Summer. 1993. I was 13.

                        Puberty hit me hard between grades 7 and 8. Fast. Ugly.

                        I was mistaken for my dad on the phone. Adam's apple to next week. Hair already giving away the fact I'll go bald. I hated every moment of it, way more than the other boys.

                        It hit so hard, in fact, that my pituitary gland had to balance my body out with estrogen, with an unexpected side effect: hard lumps under my nipples.

                        The doctor said it was temporary, puberty-induced gynecomastia, and that it would go away in about 6–12 months. Most boys would probably be elated and play video games. I walked out of his office numb. And that numbness bothered me. In fact, it bothered me the rest of the day.

                        You see, I was a kid who ideated suicide a lot, very quietly. My parents screamed and fought constantly. I was viciously abused at school for my high marks and my (unaware-to-me) queerness. I was used to the numbness of wanting to cease.

                        This wasn't that. This numbness pulled. At my mind. The rest of the day. And it wouldn't leave

                        I went to sleep bothered not to be able to figure it out, like a limb that fell asleep that won't wake up. I eventually decided to try to sleep and worry about it the next day. My brain went quiet. Until:

                        “Oh,” a little, calm, rational voice — my voice — said, “you have little breast buds and you don't want to lose them.

                        But. You're going to. And that hurts. That's the problem.”

                        That voice was tiny, but it split my brain like a thundercrack. I immediately knew.

                        I was a girl.

                        I cried silently in my bed for what seemed like hours. It wasn't a mistake, what this voice said. But God wouldn't fuck up this bad. Science wouldn't fuck up this bad. There has to be something.

                        What can I do?

                        What… could I do?

                        There's… nothing I could do.

                        I cried myself to sleep knowing who I was, but more trapped than I could imagine.

                        That's the story of discovery. I'll write more later.

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                        @Willow Teen years: 1993–1997

                        My next two weeks were rough. I was trained at home by my mother to put on the act that I was always fine, but I couldn't care to. My mood even prompted my father, who was very stoic at the time, to ask if I was okay.

                        Eventually, I put the face back on. I was broken underneath it.

                        Over the next few years, I struggled to cope. I thought I was the only girl like me. Yes, I saw Ace Ventura. Yes, my mom liked to laugh at the trans women on Jerry Springer. Yes, I heard of people who had sex changes. But, the media depiction was so awful, so nefarious. I didn't make the link that those people were like me simply because these people were so caricaturized by media, intentionally demonized. I didn't feel like some evil, laughable character on TV. I just felt so alone.

                        But, I did manage to have moments that I'd steal for myself where I'd move through the world as a secret girl. In the hallways at school. On the bus. In my room. Walking home. No one had to know.

                        …until someone figured me out.

                        Grade 11 math class was awful, taught by a retired, Hall of Fame athlete who barely taught class and spent his time outside chainsmoking. He would answer questions with the phrase “Don't ask questions about things you don't understand.” Easily the worst teacher I ever had.

                        I made friends in the back of the classroom with some girls and we got along like a house on fire. Anytime the teacher left, we'd start joking and laughing. It was a lot of fun. I felt like me.

                        And the girls could tell.

                        At the end of semester, when the teacher left one class to smoke, the girls offered me a hangout. A shopping trip. For cosmetics. And clothes. And to show me how to use them. And going out for a movie. And it was all deeply sincere.

                        “You know… just a girl's night out. What do you think?”

                        I froze. I immediately replayed grade 11 in my head and realized that year, at school, that I somehow dropped my guard and stopped pretending I was a boy. And it showed. So much. The way I walked. Held my books. Talked. I was such a fool. Idiot. Stupid, stupid, stupid. I wasn't being so secret of a girl, anymore.

                        I refused her offer. Silently. We never talked about it, again.

                        The rest of the year, I changed the way I walked and wouldn't walk that way in a long, long time.

                        (Continued later)

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                        • kats@chaosfem.twK kats@chaosfem.tw

                          @Undercat @Willow You too, huh? I suspect mine would be at least 30% flashbacks by volume.

                          I could write it as a linear timeline, but a dry retelling of the facts just wouldn't convey the impact of that realisation. The series of "wait, was that..?" and "now that makes sense" moments that just keep compounding, not to mention the growing collection of "did I even hear the words coming out of my own mouth?!"

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                          @KatS @Willow Any audience to my story would spend much of their time facepalming and screaming at the main character, while lamenting the wealth of missed opportunities and said character's gift for repression and self deception.

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                          • jenwithgravy@chaosfem.twJ jenwithgravy@chaosfem.tw

                            @Willow Teen years: 1993–1997

                            My next two weeks were rough. I was trained at home by my mother to put on the act that I was always fine, but I couldn't care to. My mood even prompted my father, who was very stoic at the time, to ask if I was okay.

                            Eventually, I put the face back on. I was broken underneath it.

                            Over the next few years, I struggled to cope. I thought I was the only girl like me. Yes, I saw Ace Ventura. Yes, my mom liked to laugh at the trans women on Jerry Springer. Yes, I heard of people who had sex changes. But, the media depiction was so awful, so nefarious. I didn't make the link that those people were like me simply because these people were so caricaturized by media, intentionally demonized. I didn't feel like some evil, laughable character on TV. I just felt so alone.

                            But, I did manage to have moments that I'd steal for myself where I'd move through the world as a secret girl. In the hallways at school. On the bus. In my room. Walking home. No one had to know.

                            …until someone figured me out.

                            Grade 11 math class was awful, taught by a retired, Hall of Fame athlete who barely taught class and spent his time outside chainsmoking. He would answer questions with the phrase “Don't ask questions about things you don't understand.” Easily the worst teacher I ever had.

                            I made friends in the back of the classroom with some girls and we got along like a house on fire. Anytime the teacher left, we'd start joking and laughing. It was a lot of fun. I felt like me.

                            And the girls could tell.

                            At the end of semester, when the teacher left one class to smoke, the girls offered me a hangout. A shopping trip. For cosmetics. And clothes. And to show me how to use them. And going out for a movie. And it was all deeply sincere.

                            “You know… just a girl's night out. What do you think?”

                            I froze. I immediately replayed grade 11 in my head and realized that year, at school, that I somehow dropped my guard and stopped pretending I was a boy. And it showed. So much. The way I walked. Held my books. Talked. I was such a fool. Idiot. Stupid, stupid, stupid. I wasn't being so secret of a girl, anymore.

                            I refused her offer. Silently. We never talked about it, again.

                            The rest of the year, I changed the way I walked and wouldn't walk that way in a long, long time.

                            (Continued later)

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                            @JenWithGravy
                            🫂

                            @Willow

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                            • willow@chaosfem.twW willow@chaosfem.tw

                              Trans folks, if you are so inclined, please feel free to share your story.

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                              @Willow I had no awareness of trans people until I was in my 30s. Being genderfluid minimized the dysphoria and trauma for me in some ways, but I still experienced a lot of bullying and being made to feel like I had no place in society. I leaned into what was hopefully a fairly healthy version of masculinity for a while, but eventually, when I felt safe and in control of my life, and had been in therapy for a while, all the suppressed femininity came out in a rush.

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                              • willow@chaosfem.twW willow@chaosfem.tw

                                Here’s the thing you need to know about people who transitioned as adults: their transition is probably a truly epic saga. They might be the most basic person ever, and they might not tell you their story, but it’s there.

                                Maybe it’s about the extremes they reached running from their dysphoria. Maybe it’s an intricate web of relationships and pain and sorrow. Maybe it’s an internal tale of descending into themselves to battle daemons that society itself cursed them with.

                                Transition is wild, yo.

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                                @Willow I've learned so, *so* much by just leaning into the other queer folks around me and listening to their stories.

                                I think when I first started listening to these stories in earnest, I was looking for common threads with my own story — a way to relate. These days, I'm listening in the same way I listen to music, or look at a sculpture; it's more about appreciating the beauty and fullness that comes with all of these stories, despite their differences. And like other sorts of art, they inevitably end up teaching me something about myself and my perception of the world.

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                                • willow@chaosfem.twW willow@chaosfem.tw

                                  Trans folks, if you are so inclined, please feel free to share your story.

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                                  @Willow I wrote a few posts on my journal about how I came to discover who I was and start on my path. The main summary is here, because it's FAR too long to post on mastodon, even as a thread.

                                  https://jecook.dreamwidth.org/565127.html

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                                  • kattgirl@girlcock.clubK kattgirl@girlcock.club

                                    @Willow I wrote a few posts on my journal about how I came to discover who I was and start on my path. The main summary is here, because it's FAR too long to post on mastodon, even as a thread.

                                    https://jecook.dreamwidth.org/565127.html

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                                    @Willow Also, this post: https://jecook.dreamwidth.org/527481.html

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                                    • willow@chaosfem.twW willow@chaosfem.tw

                                      Here’s the thing you need to know about people who transitioned as adults: their transition is probably a truly epic saga. They might be the most basic person ever, and they might not tell you their story, but it’s there.

                                      Maybe it’s about the extremes they reached running from their dysphoria. Maybe it’s an intricate web of relationships and pain and sorrow. Maybe it’s an internal tale of descending into themselves to battle daemons that society itself cursed them with.

                                      Transition is wild, yo.

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                                      @Willow There is absolutely a story, and no possible way I could fit even the highlights into five hundred characters.

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                                      • willow@chaosfem.twW willow@chaosfem.tw

                                        Trans folks, if you are so inclined, please feel free to share your story.

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                                        @Willow@chaosfem.tw I wrote a big long post about this a few weeks back. ​​

                                        RE: https://thegayagenda.fans/notes/aj5yp5yodhbc0lhl

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                                        • nineisntprime@lovelace.socialN nineisntprime@lovelace.social

                                          @Willow I wrote a whole ass post about my trans journey:

                                          https://blog.vacuussententia.net/becoming-izzy/

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                                          @NineIsntPrime @Willow Thanks for sharing that!

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