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Is there a slow software movement?

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  • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

    Is there a slow software movement?

    as in a pledge to ship only well-tested and polished software and only do it very occasionally instead of deploying slop multiple times a day that your users will have to ingest like a king's food taster

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    sjcooke66@mastodon.social
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    @thomasfuchs Isn't that Slackware?🤣

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    • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

      Is there a slow software movement?

      as in a pledge to ship only well-tested and polished software and only do it very occasionally instead of deploying slop multiple times a day that your users will have to ingest like a king's food taster

      rob@fedi.webworxshop.comR This user is from outside of this forum
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      rob@fedi.webworxshop.com
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      @thomasfuchs #Debian

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      • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

        Is there a slow software movement?

        as in a pledge to ship only well-tested and polished software and only do it very occasionally instead of deploying slop multiple times a day that your users will have to ingest like a king's food taster

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        designfactotum@hci.social
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        @thomasfuchs retro- and recreational computing

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        • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

          Is there a slow software movement?

          as in a pledge to ship only well-tested and polished software and only do it very occasionally instead of deploying slop multiple times a day that your users will have to ingest like a king's food taster

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          nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social
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          @thomasfuchs Well, Debian and Linux Mint both kind of do that.

          Debian completely separates its testing stuff into not one but two separate branches that you have to go out of your way even to get to and they almost obsess over it being stable as heck before going to release with things going through testing twice over first.

          I don't know how Linux Mint handles things internally, but they similarly obsess over it being stable. So much so that they still aren't even on Wayland yet.

          People make the occasional joke, but both are very well respected in no small part due to that stability.

          And as much as I appreciate some like Arch (especially some like CachyOS going out of their way to add processor optimizations) if I'm recommending something to someone it's probably Debian or Mint.

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          • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

            Is there a slow software movement?

            as in a pledge to ship only well-tested and polished software and only do it very occasionally instead of deploying slop multiple times a day that your users will have to ingest like a king's food taster

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            deepbluev7@nheko.io
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            @thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io I mean, I do get yelled at for how rarely I do releases, so I would say such software exists, but not sure if we are moving much.

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            • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

              Is there a slow software movement?

              as in a pledge to ship only well-tested and polished software and only do it very occasionally instead of deploying slop multiple times a day that your users will have to ingest like a king's food taster

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              worldsworstgoth@hachyderm.io
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              @thomasfuchs it probably says a lot that in 20+ years, the closest I have seen to Slow Principles (positive) in software has been for gov, not profit.

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              • worldsworstgoth@hachyderm.ioW worldsworstgoth@hachyderm.io

                @thomasfuchs it probably says a lot that in 20+ years, the closest I have seen to Slow Principles (positive) in software has been for gov, not profit.

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                @worldsworstgoth @thomasfuchs

                doesn't surprise me.

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                • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                  Is there a slow software movement?

                  as in a pledge to ship only well-tested and polished software and only do it very occasionally instead of deploying slop multiple times a day that your users will have to ingest like a king's food taster

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                  datarama@hachyderm.io
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                  @thomasfuchs Today, I saw this little meditation from the developer of Gram, a fork of the Zed editor.

                  Link Preview Image
                  Go slow, and fix things

                  Thoughts on merging from upstream

                  favicon

                  (gram.liten.app)

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                  • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                    Is there a slow software movement?

                    as in a pledge to ship only well-tested and polished software and only do it very occasionally instead of deploying slop multiple times a day that your users will have to ingest like a king's food taster

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                    amoshias@esq.social
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                    @thomasfuchs no. I have it on good authority that software only has to work until you sell the company.

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                    • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                      Is there a slow software movement?

                      as in a pledge to ship only well-tested and polished software and only do it very occasionally instead of deploying slop multiple times a day that your users will have to ingest like a king's food taster

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                      @thomasfuchs look at many old open source projects. TeX‘s development has basically become glacial at this point. Also DJ Bernstein used to make pretty solid software with limited feature sets and slow update cycles. qmail and the like.

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                      • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                        Is there a slow software movement?

                        as in a pledge to ship only well-tested and polished software and only do it very occasionally instead of deploying slop multiple times a day that your users will have to ingest like a king's food taster

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                        tuban_muzuru@beige.party
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                        @thomasfuchs

                        Bring this happy gospel to the C Suite, where contractors such as myself are asked to deliver things On Time and on Budget.

                        "well-tested" and "polished" are punch lines.

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