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Anthropic when Chinese companies use Claude to train their own AI models vs Anothropic when they’re stealing everyone’s data to train Claude

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  • malwaretech@infosec.exchangeM This user is from outside of this forum
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    Anthropic when Chinese companies use Claude to train their own AI models vs Anothropic when they’re stealing everyone’s data to train Claude

    tchauhan@mastodon.mit.eduT makdaam@chaos.socialM zarchasmpgmr@infosec.exchangeZ rooneymcnibnug@mastodon.socialR tom_huth@mastodon.onlineT 5 Replies Last reply
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    • malwaretech@infosec.exchangeM malwaretech@infosec.exchange

      Anthropic when Chinese companies use Claude to train their own AI models vs Anothropic when they’re stealing everyone’s data to train Claude

      tchauhan@mastodon.mit.eduT This user is from outside of this forum
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      @malwaretech So the Chinese companies actually had to pay to train their models ? That sounds terrible. Wait. No. That sounds almost fair ?

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      • tchauhan@mastodon.mit.eduT tchauhan@mastodon.mit.edu

        @malwaretech So the Chinese companies actually had to pay to train their models ? That sounds terrible. Wait. No. That sounds almost fair ?

        kevingranade@mastodon.gamedev.placeK This user is from outside of this forum
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        @tchauhan @malwaretech yep, it's not even any kind of bypass, just, "we disapprove of what you're using this legitimately obtained access to do".

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        • malwaretech@infosec.exchangeM malwaretech@infosec.exchange

          Anthropic when Chinese companies use Claude to train their own AI models vs Anothropic when they’re stealing everyone’s data to train Claude

          makdaam@chaos.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @malwaretech It's not only Anthropic. Google is whining about it too.

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          • malwaretech@infosec.exchangeM malwaretech@infosec.exchange

            Anthropic when Chinese companies use Claude to train their own AI models vs Anothropic when they’re stealing everyone’s data to train Claude

            zarchasmpgmr@infosec.exchangeZ This user is from outside of this forum
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            @malwaretech is this how Claude generates COBOL?

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            • malwaretech@infosec.exchangeM malwaretech@infosec.exchange

              Anthropic when Chinese companies use Claude to train their own AI models vs Anothropic when they’re stealing everyone’s data to train Claude

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              @malwaretech just like the U.S. gov re: surveillance

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                Anthropic when Chinese companies use Claude to train their own AI models vs Anothropic when they’re stealing everyone’s data to train Claude

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                @malwaretech Likely the reason:
                https://www.dataprovenance.org/economies-of-open-intelligence.pdf

                "We document a fundamental rebalancing of economic power: US open-weight industry dominance by Google, Meta, and OpenAI has declined sharply in favor of unaffiliated devel-opers, community organizations, and, as of 2025, Chinese industry, with DeepSeek
                and Qwen models potentially heralding a new consolidation of market power."

                The evil China is disrupting our nice business.

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