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Curiosity: 4844th day of the mission

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  • nyrath@spacey.spaceN nyrath@spacey.space

    @Ann_Effes @pomarede

    Ah! I stand corrected.

    It didn't occur to me that they would optimize to a specific number of years, instead of "infinity". Obvious in hindsight.

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    @nyrath @Ann_Effes @pomarede
    Very few engineered devices with either moving or electronic parts are actually engineered for more than a five year life. Some things are rated for ten year life, but that's actually rare. Things that last longer are due to having good margins, not due to a longer planned lifespan. Especially not for years with NO maintenance.

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      @Ann_Effes @SCALETHEORY @pomarede Building a bridge that doesn’t fall down is easy. Building a bridge that just barely doesn’t fall down is challenging

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      • nf3xn@mastodon.socialN nf3xn@mastodon.social

        @Ann_Effes @SCALETHEORY @pomarede I think by now we have to realize that NASA scientists lie through their teeth about how long things are expected to last just so they extend the mission with "oh well it's there now it would be a real shame to waste it amazing its lasted this long... nooo us? would we do that? never!"

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        @nf3xn @Ann_Effes @SCALETHEORY @pomarede
        Never occurred to me those Voyager scientists were planing a generations–long job-retention plan for themselves

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        • accordionbruce@mastodon.socialA accordionbruce@mastodon.social

          @nf3xn @Ann_Effes @SCALETHEORY @pomarede
          Never occurred to me those Voyager scientists were planing a generations–long job-retention plan for themselves

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          @AccordionBruce @Ann_Effes @SCALETHEORY @pomarede look how much _science_ we can fit in this >slaps roof<

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          • burne@waag.socialB burne@waag.social

            @pomarede (credit: https://xkcd.com/695/)

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            @burne @pomarede

            Makes me sad, somehow.

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            • pomarede@mastodon.socialP pomarede@mastodon.social

              Curiosity: 4844th day of the mission

              Image captured 6 hours ago.

              Credits: NASA/JPL-Caltech/MSSS

              #Mars #Curiosity #rover #Sol4844 #CuriosityRover #space #science

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              @pomarede And that's after driving ~20 miles.

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              • accordionbruce@mastodon.socialA accordionbruce@mastodon.social

                @nf3xn @Ann_Effes @SCALETHEORY @pomarede
                Never occurred to me those Voyager scientists were planing a generations–long job-retention plan for themselves

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                @AccordionBruce @Ann_Effes @SCALETHEORY @pomarede on a more sad and serious note we are talking about turning off missions like Juno due to cuts when the pedo in chief is burning through the NASA budget in a couple of weeks with his reverse regime change.

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                • brouhaha@mastodon.socialB brouhaha@mastodon.social

                  @nyrath @Ann_Effes @pomarede
                  Very few engineered devices with either moving or electronic parts are actually engineered for more than a five year life. Some things are rated for ten year life, but that's actually rare. Things that last longer are due to having good margins, not due to a longer planned lifespan. Especially not for years with NO maintenance.

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                  @brouhaha @nyrath The latter is usually the case for things headed to space, especially if you can't practically switch over to a redundant spare. Since you went to all the money and effort to put it in space, you want to make sure it works for the intended mission life with high confidence, so you add a fair bit of margin, which means it has a good chance to last quite a bit longer than the intended mission life. But, as @Ann_Effes points out, there are costs to doing that, so you try not to go too overboard. @pomarede

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                  • burne@waag.socialB burne@waag.social

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                    @burne @pomarede 😔

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                    • pomarede@mastodon.socialP pomarede@mastodon.social

                      Curiosity: 4844th day of the mission

                      Image captured 6 hours ago.

                      Credits: NASA/JPL-Caltech/MSSS

                      #Mars #Curiosity #rover #Sol4844 #CuriosityRover #space #science

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                      @pomarede Alright, Mars winds – now do Elon

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                      • pomarede@mastodon.socialP pomarede@mastodon.social

                        Curiosity: 4844th day of the mission

                        Image captured 6 hours ago.

                        Credits: NASA/JPL-Caltech/MSSS

                        #Mars #Curiosity #rover #Sol4844 #CuriosityRover #space #science

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                        @pomarede @Cheatha ...reckless drivers on #mars.

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                        • internic@mathstodon.xyzI internic@mathstodon.xyz

                          @brouhaha @nyrath The latter is usually the case for things headed to space, especially if you can't practically switch over to a redundant spare. Since you went to all the money and effort to put it in space, you want to make sure it works for the intended mission life with high confidence, so you add a fair bit of margin, which means it has a good chance to last quite a bit longer than the intended mission life. But, as @Ann_Effes points out, there are costs to doing that, so you try not to go too overboard. @pomarede

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                          @internic @brouhaha @nyrath @Ann_Effes @pomarede consider also that that wheel is disintegrating, but only from the main support ring inwards. The outer 1/3 looks still fairly intact and loadbearing. They'll have to be mindful of what they drive over, to avoid getting too much into "Air Sand" because the ground pressure on that wheel is going to go way up. but it can still ride over rocks just fine; the spokes and support ring should take care of that much.

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                          • hyratel@yiff.lifeH hyratel@yiff.life

                            @internic @brouhaha @nyrath @Ann_Effes @pomarede consider also that that wheel is disintegrating, but only from the main support ring inwards. The outer 1/3 looks still fairly intact and loadbearing. They'll have to be mindful of what they drive over, to avoid getting too much into "Air Sand" because the ground pressure on that wheel is going to go way up. but it can still ride over rocks just fine; the spokes and support ring should take care of that much.

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                            @internic @brouhaha @nyrath @Ann_Effes @pomarede something that's noted in a lot of the literature around the wheels is an academically surprised tone over 'cracks seem to propagate from corner features of the grouser chevrons' which is .... Engineering 100: That's a stress concentration. Why are you surprised. (Percy's wheels have Wave grousers instead, and they're spaced closer together, so should hold up better)

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                            • pomarede@mastodon.socialP pomarede@mastodon.social

                              Curiosity: 4844th day of the mission

                              Image captured 6 hours ago.

                              Credits: NASA/JPL-Caltech/MSSS

                              #Mars #Curiosity #rover #Sol4844 #CuriosityRover #space #science

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                              @pomarede do they still play the wakeup-songs every morning?

                              here is my wish for the next song:
                              https://open.spotify.com/track/6NdX7DthSxdXpRXDSQZZKS

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                              • burne@waag.socialB burne@waag.social

                                @pomarede (credit: https://xkcd.com/695/)

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                                @burne @pomarede This makes me sad! 🥹 Let's go for a visit at least!

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                                • pomarede@mastodon.socialP pomarede@mastodon.social

                                  Curiosity: 4844th day of the mission

                                  Image captured 6 hours ago.

                                  Credits: NASA/JPL-Caltech/MSSS

                                  #Mars #Curiosity #rover #Sol4844 #CuriosityRover #space #science

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                                  @pomarede TÜV is sending their best man to Mars right now.

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                                  • silvermoon82@wandering.shopS silvermoon82@wandering.shop

                                    @pomarede
                                    I feel ya, Curiosity.

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                                    @silvermoon82 @pomarede Still functioning 😉

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                                      @Ann_Effes @SCALETHEORY @pomarede of course it is a joke - the engineering skill required by NASA to keep Voyagers alive is incomprehensible to all but a few thousand people on the planet of which thankfully I am one. I was an excited child when they were announced, were finally launched, have followed them since and thank goodness for the foresight of those engineers to be able to probe beyond our solar system. It was not their primary objective but not enough dollars in the world to buy that.

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                                      • pomarede@mastodon.socialP pomarede@mastodon.social

                                        Curiosity: 4844th day of the mission

                                        Image captured 6 hours ago.

                                        Credits: NASA/JPL-Caltech/MSSS

                                        #Mars #Curiosity #rover #Sol4844 #CuriosityRover #space #science

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                                        @pomarede you missed the great opportunity to use 4844 "sols". And it's sol 4844 of it's 1095 sols mission

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