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  3. Oh my gawd, this "ZIRO" branded filament undoubtedly takes the cake of the most wet filament out-of-the-box I've ever had.

Oh my gawd, this "ZIRO" branded filament undoubtedly takes the cake of the most wet filament out-of-the-box I've ever had.

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    Oh my gawd, this "ZIRO" branded filament undoubtedly takes the cake of the most wet filament out-of-the-box I've ever had. Did they drop the whole spool of PLA into a water tank before shipping?
    #3DPrinting

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      @Drayventhal It's moisture in the material. Most filaments are more or less hygroscopic, so they actually take in moisture (some like Nylon or Woodfill-PLA especially so).

      The moisture in the material becomes gas inside the nozzle due to the high temperature and expands (you can audibly hear it "pop" as the gas escapes through the nozzle), which of course causes uneven flow (holes, wobbly surfaces etc). The filament/moisture mix is also way more stringy than it should be, as you can see.

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        @Drayventhal It's moisture in the material. Most filaments are more or less hygroscopic, so they actually take in moisture (some like Nylon or Woodfill-PLA especially so).

        The moisture in the material becomes gas inside the nozzle due to the high temperature and expands (you can audibly hear it "pop" as the gas escapes through the nozzle), which of course causes uneven flow (holes, wobbly surfaces etc). The filament/moisture mix is also way more stringy than it should be, as you can see.

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        @Drayventhal To my understanding if it was bound into the chemical structure of the material we couldn't just throw whole spools into a dryer, have it sit at 50-70°C for 24h and make all the moisture disappear.

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          @Drayventhal With some materials I've heard people even put it in the microwave (you really have to know you can do that though, especially since many spools by now come with an NFC chip inside).

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            Oh my gawd, this "ZIRO" branded filament undoubtedly takes the cake of the most wet filament out-of-the-box I've ever had. Did they drop the whole spool of PLA into a water tank before shipping?
            #3DPrinting

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            @Natanox they literally pull the fresh filament through a multi-step water bath. That's not usually a problem, but most people don't realize that it's part of every filament manufacturing process

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              @Natanox they literally pull the fresh filament through a multi-step water bath. That's not usually a problem, but most people don't realize that it's part of every filament manufacturing process

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              @RichiH How do other manufacturers mitigate the issue? I've never had something like this before, usually the spools are at least in a usable state right out of the box. I doubt most of them dry every single spool beforehand, and I also doubt the flimsy amount of silicate in each spool solves it during shipping.

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                @RichiH How do other manufacturers mitigate the issue? I've never had something like this before, usually the spools are at least in a usable state right out of the box. I doubt most of them dry every single spool beforehand, and I also doubt the flimsy amount of silicate in each spool solves it during shipping.

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                @Natanox manufacturers don't care. The production facilities for filament and cables I visited never sealed them right after and the material was still warm (cooling too much takes more space and time, thus costs more money) so the extra water just evaporated or dripped off I guess.

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                  Oh my gawd, this "ZIRO" branded filament undoubtedly takes the cake of the most wet filament out-of-the-box I've ever had. Did they drop the whole spool of PLA into a water tank before shipping?
                  #3DPrinting

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                  @Natanox
                  I mean it _is_ a boat.

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