People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes.
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People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.
@hacks4pancakes Ffff, this thread is how I found out that SFA will only get one more season.
I had mixed feelings about Discovery over its run, but loved SFA immediately. It was my favourite of the live action new Trek series, hands down.
It's wild to me to what degree certain franchise fans don't acknowledge or even *see* who has actually been in their fandom for literal decades, ever since there's been a fandom; before there was an internet, and sometimes before they were on Earth, enjoying something even though it wasn't primarily intended for them.
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People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.
@hacks4pancakes People apparently also don't want to be reminded of what would've happened to shows like TNG had they been judged by the audience reception to their early seasons.
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People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.
@hacks4pancakes I am not straight and not male (though admittedly, I'm old) and I couldn't bear watching more than 4 episodes of Discovery. It wasn't well-written and the characters were stereotypes. I don't fault anyone for liking it but how someone can relate to the characters without doing some very heavy lifting is beyond me.
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People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.
@hacks4pancakes I'm a straight white woman, but I fucking love starfleet academy. It is a great show. And anyone who thinks it's a departure from Star Trek in "wokeness" hasn't paid attention.
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People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.
@hacks4pancakes I'm not the target audience for either Discovery or SFA. I'm a CIS white male. But I absolutely loved how the writers of SFA represented so many different minorities. The characters were fictional, but their stories were tangible, and there was growth, and it was refreshing that it was a (mostly) low stakes story. It makes me angry how... rabid some people are about disliking the show. It's like a perverse mirror of the fascist crap going on in our lives - they not only don't like it, they also want to prevent other people from liking it. A show that's known for espousing acceptance and diversity!
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People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.
@hacks4pancakes One thing that really struck me when watching Discovery is how much the franchise focuses on war now. I don't know why that show. It's not the first by far. It just hit me though and I wonder how Roddenberry would have liked that. Every Star Trek, even one called "Discovery", is primarily full of war.
Exciting. It's a good, fun show. I like it. But it hit me.
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@anthony @hacks4pancakes OMG I love it so much!!!! I wish I had that office/quarters.
@kristinHenry @anthony @hacks4pancakes So fabulous. I hope that set designer does other amazing work in that same vein!
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@kristinHenry @anthony @hacks4pancakes So fabulous. I hope that set designer does other amazing work in that same vein!
@polarweasel @anthony @hacks4pancakes They have a wonderful understanding of Art Nouveau, and mixing it...so many of my favorite art movements.
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People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.
Cis, Het, Older White Guy here. I LOVE DISCOVERY! I LOVE STARDATE:90210! I AM AMBIVALENT ABOUT PICARD! I LOVE STRANGE NEW WORLDS!
IOW, until now, I've loved every series even if it took a while to warm to DS9. I love all three animated series.
Except for a couple, I do draw the line at the movies. All of them are… watchable but only a couple are good (ST2:TWOK, ST4:TOWTW, IMHO).
If any new Trek dross ever leaks from Paramaga, it's likely to be garbage.
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People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.
@hacks4pancakes @B3r6ur Yae. Would rather watch Voyager for the 8th time.
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@hacks4pancakes @B3r6ur Yae. Would rather watch Voyager for the 8th time.
@hacks4pancakes @B3r6ur (I think I might habe mis-read your post. Might be part for course.)
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Not me being actual walking Captain Ake as a senior engineer and military veteran.
@hacks4pancakes
The way she doesn't like to wear shoes and how she drops herself into seats give off so much ADHD energy! But combined with her self-confidence it becomes mind-blowing.That is you? Awesome!! 🤩
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People just aren’t ready for the conversation about Starfleet Academy and Discovery just not being primarily intended for an audience eye of straight, white, millennial and older dudes. And how much *other* Trekkie fan audiences could relate to the characters, finally.
TOS has a main character whose parents are different species and no one is surprised that they are married. The idea that the gender of people in a relationship would bother people in such a society seems weird.
It’s probably necessary for audience comprehension, but the idea that we’d still be using gendered pronouns in the 23rd century grated on me quite a bit as a teenager watching TNG for the first time (especially since they did try to make the titles and forms of address in Starfleet gender-neutral). At least Iain M Banks put in translator note explaining that this was an artefact of your reading the book in a stupid language and not the original Marain.
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