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  • uwehalfhand@norcal.socialU uwehalfhand@norcal.social

    @VeeRat You are so right. In college, I tried one semester to not take notes, but listen attentively instead, because I rarely if ever referred back to the notes I had written. My grades divebombed… next semester, I started writing notes again, that I then never referred to, and my grades recovered. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Lesson learned.

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    wrote last edited by
    #59

    @UweHalfHand @VeeRat In college, I took notes in class, but they were hasty and not necessarily very legible. That evening, I'd re-write the notes in clearer handwriting, adding in things that I remembered from what I'd heard in class earlier. That extra bit of writing helped me to remember a lot more of what I'd learned.

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    • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

      Sigh.

      New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

      Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

      New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

      Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

      New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

      Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

      integerpoet@sfba.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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      integerpoet@sfba.social
      wrote last edited by
      #60

      @VeeRat This is literally how I “cheated” my way through college. Write furiously during lecture. Go home and rewrite so your notes aren’t chaos. Maybe consult the textbook when your own notes confuse you. Aaaaand it’s beer o’clock! Never even glance at the notes ever again.

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      • anyia@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #61

        @Petesmom @VeeRat that makes them so efficient!!11!

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        • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

          Sigh.

          New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

          Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

          New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

          Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

          New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

          Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

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          nothacking@infosec.exchange
          wrote last edited by
          #62
          @VeeRat@zeroes.ca It's also good for thinking. It's very common for me to write something down and discover that it makes no sense or that I made an incorrect assumption.

          Using an LLM would free me of from the burden of finding out I was wrong... letting me stay wrong forever.
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          • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

            Sigh.

            New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

            Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

            New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

            Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

            New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

            Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

            dulcedemon@beige.partyD This user is from outside of this forum
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            dulcedemon@beige.party
            wrote last edited by
            #63

            @VeeRat
            When I'm learning new things, especially if I need to remember information for a test, I have to write the study notes by hand in order for it to stick.

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            • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

              Sigh.

              New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

              Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

              New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

              Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

              New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

              Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

              unlofl@mstdn.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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              unlofl@mstdn.social
              wrote last edited by
              #64

              @VeeRat I am a tech dork with paper notebooks and fancy pens, that shit works!

              And when everything fails, I note the time, to eventually check the logs and build a timeline.

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              • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                Sigh.

                New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

                kkarhan@infosec.spaceK This user is from outside of this forum
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                kkarhan@infosec.space
                wrote last edited by
                #65

                @VeeRat because some people are just assholes who refuse to acknowledge that "#AIslop" is a hinderance and net negative...

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                • kkarhan@infosec.spaceK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  kkarhan@infosec.space
                  wrote last edited by
                  #66

                  @violetmadder @yetzt @N01100010 @VeeRat EXACTLY, cuz #Neofeudalism works best when everyone worships an "#Oracle" instead of using their own brains!

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                  • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                    Sigh.

                    New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                    Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                    New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                    Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                    New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                    Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

                    arazil@elvenstar.cafeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    arazil@elvenstar.cafe
                    wrote last edited by
                    #67

                    @VeeRat This fits the "performative processing" theory of management that seems to be going viral through corporate culture these days. In that model, the process of creating the product is prioritized over the output of the process. The end result is an expensive product that includes a lot of fancy buzzwords but doesn't perform as advertised.

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                    • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

                      @VeeRat

                      Also, Copilot literally makes shit up when it takes notes. There are a dozen malpractice lawsuits in the system right now bc doctors used Copilot and its errors seriously endangered the lives of their patients.

                      I know you can't, but you should just tell him "I prefer my notes to be accurate".

                      navi@catcatnya.comN This user is from outside of this forum
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                      navi@catcatnya.com
                      wrote last edited by
                      #68

                      @johnzajac @VeeRat I have said this before

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                      • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                        Sigh.

                        New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                        Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                        New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                        Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                        New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                        Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

                        millardphillmore@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        millardphillmore@mastodon.social
                        wrote last edited by
                        #69

                        @VeeRat yes!!! Classic note taking studying techniques. Writing it out (not typing) sticks it in my brain.

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                        • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                          Sigh.

                          New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                          Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                          New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                          Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                          New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                          Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

                          hakuso@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                          hakuso@mastodon.social
                          wrote last edited by
                          #70

                          @VeeRat
                          i have a kid in high school and they complain about the teachers pushing AI...

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                          • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                            Sigh.

                            New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                            Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                            New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                            Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                            New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                            Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

                            grumpasaurus@infosec.exchangeG This user is from outside of this forum
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                            grumpasaurus@infosec.exchange
                            wrote last edited by
                            #71

                            @VeeRat it allows people who dont want to put in the effort to develop a skill to work for the weekend

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                            • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                              Sigh.

                              New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                              Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                              New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                              Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                              New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                              Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

                              optimiced@mastodon.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote last edited by
                              #72

                              @VeeRat I am in the same place now. 😞

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                              • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                                Sigh.

                                New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                                Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                                New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                                Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                                New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                                Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

                                gavgraham@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                gavgraham@mastodon.social
                                wrote last edited by
                                #73

                                @VeeRat outsourcing your own neural net doesn't seem like the smartest of ideas...

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                                • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                                  Sigh.

                                  New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                                  Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                                  New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                                  Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                                  New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                                  Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

                                  iveyline@mastodon.nzI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #74

                                  @VeeRat You are so right. I'm sure many of us don't ever want to become AI zombies. There is little point in existing if our mental capacities are set aside. The huge push to insert AI into every aspect of our lives is annoying and unwanted. Let us use the brains and intelligence we were born with. It will always be smarter and more creative than AI.

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                                  • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

                                    @VeeRat

                                    Also, Copilot literally makes shit up when it takes notes. There are a dozen malpractice lawsuits in the system right now bc doctors used Copilot and its errors seriously endangered the lives of their patients.

                                    I know you can't, but you should just tell him "I prefer my notes to be accurate".

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                                    tknarr@mstdn.social
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #75

                                    @johnzajac @VeeRat Also the number of show-cause hearings for lawyers (and law firms, and departments of justice) who used genAI to write motions with made-up case citations. A few have progressed to sanctions hearings, and at least one to the dissolution of the law firm in question.

                                    Meanwhile I'm in the middle of cleaning up a complete fustercluck in code that pre-dates genAI, it's _all_ down to human stupidity. We don't need any help screwing things up.

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                                    • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                                      Sigh.

                                      New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                                      Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                                      New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                                      Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                                      New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                                      Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

                                      lizette603_23@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      lizette603_23@mastodon.social
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #76

                                      @VeeRat is the penis that gets in the way of listening

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                                      • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                                        Sigh.

                                        New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                                        Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                                        New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                                        Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                                        New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                                        Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

                                        starkrg@myside-yourside.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        starkrg@myside-yourside.net
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #77

                                        @VeeRat Summarisation requires judging what the most important parts of the text are and discarding the rest. LLMs are word predictors and are fundamentally incapable of that kind of judgement which means that they are fundamentally incapable of reliable summarisation. If what you've written *can* be accurately summarised by an LLM, that suggests it's extremely simple and you've added a bunch of useless fluff. Get rid of the fluff and don't bother with a summary.

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                                        • veerat@zeroes.caV veerat@zeroes.ca

                                          Sigh.

                                          New boss: “You’re good at writing notes.”

                                          Me: “Thank you, it helps me to remember so I have been writing summaries for many years.”

                                          New boss: “You should try CoPilot and see what it can do.”

                                          Me: “Well I enjoy summarizing my notes, and it helps me to learn and remember.”

                                          New boss: “Let me show you something I did in CoPilot.”

                                          Ugh. Writing it myself helps me LEARN and REMEMBER. Why are these AI zombies so intent on changing a process that is helpful to me? Feeding notes through CoPilot won’t benefit me when it’s the act of writing that works for me.

                                          alexcorby@indieauthors.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #78

                                          @VeeRat Dealing with this right now in the school I teach at. We had a training about how to use/implement rubrics and were given the task to create a rubric for a random assignment in 20 minutes.

                                          Everyone turned to the school's AI platform. I just banged out a five criteria rubric with four points in about 15 minutes. I know what's in it, because I created it. Everyone else was still adjusting their prompts after 20 minutes.

                                          I'm really starting to feel like the last person standing in a zombie movie. When our AI platform was rolled out (last year) I was assured it was only a tool and I could choose to use it or not. I have not touched it.

                                          Now, I'm subtly being told that the school spent a lot of money on the platform and we should be using it at least once a day. I still haven't touched it.

                                          I mean, dude, your bad investment is not my problem!

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