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To those who say I overdid it with my MacBook Pro on the specs, how do you know?

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  • R rooktallon@caneandable.social

    @mikedoise @technocounselor I mean, I can already run LLMs for roleplay/fictional story creation and all that stuff, is agentic work really that different?

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    @Rooktallon @technocounselor You can try it but it will depend on your VRAM. LLMs can be creative, but agentic work requires the LLM to reason and call tools and figure out what to do with that data. The next thing is that the agent needs to have enough of a context window to reason out what it should do. This means a lot more video memory is required. LLMs like graphics chips because the information can be processed in parallel instead of on just a few cores.

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      @Rooktallon @technocounselor You can try it but it will depend on your VRAM. LLMs can be creative, but agentic work requires the LLM to reason and call tools and figure out what to do with that data. The next thing is that the agent needs to have enough of a context window to reason out what it should do. This means a lot more video memory is required. LLMs like graphics chips because the information can be processed in parallel instead of on just a few cores.

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      @mikedoise @technocounselor Hmmm, I see. So, if I wanted to see if it'd actually work, which one should I try?

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      • R rooktallon@caneandable.social

        @mikedoise @technocounselor Hmmm, I see. So, if I wanted to see if it'd actually work, which one should I try?

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        @Rooktallon @technocounselor I’d try Ollama with Hermes Agent. It is the easiest to set up. Do you know how much video ram you have?

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        • mikedoise@techopolis.socialM mikedoise@techopolis.social

          @Rooktallon @technocounselor I’d try Ollama with Hermes Agent. It is the easiest to set up. Do you know how much video ram you have?

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          @mikedoise @technocounselor Apparently 12 gigs I think?

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          • R rooktallon@caneandable.social

            @mikedoise @technocounselor Apparently 12 gigs I think?

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            @Rooktallon @technocounselor Try Gemma 4 E4B You might be able to get away with a context window of 64K or 96K tokens. That is a guess but you’d have to try it.

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            • mikedoise@techopolis.socialM mikedoise@techopolis.social

              @Rooktallon @technocounselor Try Gemma 4 E4B You might be able to get away with a context window of 64K or 96K tokens. That is a guess but you’d have to try it.

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              rooktallon@caneandable.social
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              @mikedoise @technocounselor So, you have to program the thing yourself, it would seem, enter the code in and run it through CLI, is that right?

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              • R rooktallon@caneandable.social

                @mikedoise @technocounselor So, you have to program the thing yourself, it would seem, enter the code in and run it through CLI, is that right?

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                @Rooktallon @technocounselor Hermes Agent has a one line paste that you use in the terminal. Not sure if it will work in CMD or PowerShell, but it will for sure work with windows subsystem for linux. Paste that in, and make sure Ollama is installed. You then have to set up Hermes agent from the command line with the arrow keys. It is not the easiest process.

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                • mikedoise@techopolis.socialM mikedoise@techopolis.social

                  @Rooktallon @technocounselor Hermes Agent has a one line paste that you use in the terminal. Not sure if it will work in CMD or PowerShell, but it will for sure work with windows subsystem for linux. Paste that in, and make sure Ollama is installed. You then have to set up Hermes agent from the command line with the arrow keys. It is not the easiest process.

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                  @mikedoise @technocounselor Apparently I can just install Ollama for windows and run them through there supposedly.

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                  • L lynn@mastodon.stickbear.me

                    @technocounselor I've never understood why people feel so free to express negative opinions about another person's technology choices. It really is not their business. Most people don't choose to spend as little as I do on technology, but that doesn't give me the right to impose my choices on others. I really hope you enjoy your new Mac. 🙂

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                    nightdrake@dragonscave.space
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                    @Lynn @technocounselor I don't know why people have to express negative opinions on anything. Tech or not. I think a lot of it stems from jealousy though. Or those who have more money than others. I was so hesitant to ask anything about the BTSpeak because of how a lot of the people in the blind community can be. But surprisingly enough I got amazing feedback. It was such a breath of fresh air. No one needs to tell others what they do or don't do with their money. I'm actually a believer of not talking about finances one way or the other with anyone other than Bob. Like if I'm going to make a big purchase which doesn't at all happen very often I talk it through with him. Not to ask for permission. But so that he can help me think of questions if I need to. Or say yes, this is a bad idea. Or no, go for it. So many are wanting the latest and greatest this or that. But if they have the money and if that's how they choose to spend it that's not anyone's business but the person buying the product in question.

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                      @Lynn @technocounselor I don't know why people have to express negative opinions on anything. Tech or not. I think a lot of it stems from jealousy though. Or those who have more money than others. I was so hesitant to ask anything about the BTSpeak because of how a lot of the people in the blind community can be. But surprisingly enough I got amazing feedback. It was such a breath of fresh air. No one needs to tell others what they do or don't do with their money. I'm actually a believer of not talking about finances one way or the other with anyone other than Bob. Like if I'm going to make a big purchase which doesn't at all happen very often I talk it through with him. Not to ask for permission. But so that he can help me think of questions if I need to. Or say yes, this is a bad idea. Or no, go for it. So many are wanting the latest and greatest this or that. But if they have the money and if that's how they choose to spend it that's not anyone's business but the person buying the product in question.

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                      baxaphobia@caneandable.social
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                      @NightDrake @Lynn @technocounselor You're right. If I make a big purchase I also run it by Bruno. Not for permission but just to make sure it's not going to interfere with something he would like to do. Why can't people be happy for those who get something new? You are right. I do think part of it is jealousy or envy. I hesitated to talk about getting my stream a while ago because of the negative comments people made about having a separate device blah blah blah. But finally I said screw it.

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                      • R rooktallon@caneandable.social

                        @mikedoise @technocounselor Apparently I can just install Ollama for windows and run them through there supposedly.

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                        @Rooktallon @technocounselor Ollama will launch OpenClaw or Hermes Agent with Ollama as the provider but I don’t think it installs and configures the software.

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                        • T technocounselor@caneandable.social

                          To those who say I overdid it with my MacBook Pro on the specs, how do you know? With vibe coding, who knows what I will do with it?

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                          kgs49@allovertheplace.ca
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                          @technocounselor Who cares anyway. It's yours, you get have it however you want.

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                            @Lynn @technocounselor I don't know why people have to express negative opinions on anything. Tech or not. I think a lot of it stems from jealousy though. Or those who have more money than others. I was so hesitant to ask anything about the BTSpeak because of how a lot of the people in the blind community can be. But surprisingly enough I got amazing feedback. It was such a breath of fresh air. No one needs to tell others what they do or don't do with their money. I'm actually a believer of not talking about finances one way or the other with anyone other than Bob. Like if I'm going to make a big purchase which doesn't at all happen very often I talk it through with him. Not to ask for permission. But so that he can help me think of questions if I need to. Or say yes, this is a bad idea. Or no, go for it. So many are wanting the latest and greatest this or that. But if they have the money and if that's how they choose to spend it that's not anyone's business but the person buying the product in question.

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                            lynn@mastodon.stickbear.me
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                            @NightDrake @technocounselor I think it's fine to talk about specifics like the cost of technology and what various devices can and cannot do. That is because, had anyone shared with me about what technology could best serve me, I wouldn't have invested nearly the amount I did initially. So I think such discussions are important. That is much different than suggesting what dollar expenditure is right for another person. The blindness community, I feel, should stop criticizing one another's choices, but should explain the costs and also options that work for them. That, in my view, would be much more helpful. All we seem to hear about is expensive devices which many cannot afford, rather than lesser expensive options. How can anyone make an informed choice if all they hear about or are made aware of high end tech?

                            I wish the community would champion the idea that the first thing anyone needs to know is exactly what they need their technology and devices to do. Only then can one make an informed choice.

                            One thing I am noticing is more reference to NVDA as a screen reader. I'm glad more people are learning about it, and more people are also learning about Android.

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                            • T technocounselor@caneandable.social

                              @JamiePauls @Bruce Yeah we could, and ROBERT would be the mac in the middle. 🙂

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                              @technocounselor @Bruce I will let you know when I get around to getting my new MacBook and then we can make that happen.

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                              • K kgs49@allovertheplace.ca

                                @technocounselor Who cares anyway. It's yours, you get have it however you want.

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                                davidgoldfield@allovertheplace.ca
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                                @kgs49 @technocounselor Are people really telling you that? That's just rude. I hope you enjoy it.

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                                • D davidgoldfield@allovertheplace.ca

                                  @kgs49 @technocounselor Are people really telling you that? That's just rude. I hope you enjoy it.

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                                  @DavidGoldfield @technocounselor They're probably just jealous.

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                                  • T technocounselor@caneandable.social

                                    @Bruce A 14 inch MacBook Pro with a M5 max processor, that includes a 18 core CPU, 40 core GPU, and 16 core Neural Engine. 128 GB of RAM and a 2 TB SSD.

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                                    quanin@allovertheplace.ca
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                                    @technocounselor @Bruce You bought the exact machine I'd buy, if I felt like pulling my hair out with Voice Over. LOL

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                                    • L lynn@mastodon.stickbear.me

                                      @NightDrake @technocounselor I think it's fine to talk about specifics like the cost of technology and what various devices can and cannot do. That is because, had anyone shared with me about what technology could best serve me, I wouldn't have invested nearly the amount I did initially. So I think such discussions are important. That is much different than suggesting what dollar expenditure is right for another person. The blindness community, I feel, should stop criticizing one another's choices, but should explain the costs and also options that work for them. That, in my view, would be much more helpful. All we seem to hear about is expensive devices which many cannot afford, rather than lesser expensive options. How can anyone make an informed choice if all they hear about or are made aware of high end tech?

                                      I wish the community would champion the idea that the first thing anyone needs to know is exactly what they need their technology and devices to do. Only then can one make an informed choice.

                                      One thing I am noticing is more reference to NVDA as a screen reader. I'm glad more people are learning about it, and more people are also learning about Android.

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                                      nightdrake@dragonscave.space
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                                      @Lynn @technocounselor Oh, yea, I love that people talk about tech and such. What I don't love is all the judging that comes along with it. I do know this isn't at all just a blind thing. But with our community and how it is. It just seems so frustrating. Instead of tearing each other down we should help in building each other up. And helping out. The criticism frustrates me so much.Same with all the bragging. Who cares who has what. Being happy is much more important than things. NVDA has come leaps and bounds. And Android is as well.

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                                        @NightDrake @Lynn @technocounselor You're right. If I make a big purchase I also run it by Bruno. Not for permission but just to make sure it's not going to interfere with something he would like to do. Why can't people be happy for those who get something new? You are right. I do think part of it is jealousy or envy. I hesitated to talk about getting my stream a while ago because of the negative comments people made about having a separate device blah blah blah. But finally I said screw it.

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                                        nightdrake@dragonscave.space
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                                        @baxaphobia @Lynn @technocounselor See? I agree with all of this. I'll be interested to see what you think of the stream once you get it.

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                                        • N nightdrake@dragonscave.space

                                          @Lynn @technocounselor Oh, yea, I love that people talk about tech and such. What I don't love is all the judging that comes along with it. I do know this isn't at all just a blind thing. But with our community and how it is. It just seems so frustrating. Instead of tearing each other down we should help in building each other up. And helping out. The criticism frustrates me so much.Same with all the bragging. Who cares who has what. Being happy is much more important than things. NVDA has come leaps and bounds. And Android is as well.

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                                          lynn@mastodon.stickbear.me
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                                          @NightDrake @technocounselor I agree we shouldn't judge one another's tech choices. But I want to encourage people, especially those who are tech minimalists like myself, to speak up about their experiences too. I see that lacking here, and I don't think it is because there are so few of us. I think it is precisely because people are afraid of criticism and being disrespected. I'd like this to change. And if I had the technical skills, I would start that type of Mastodon instance.

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