I just boosted a question, but I have a slightly reworded question.
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I just boosted a question, but I have a slightly reworded question. Why is Linux and FOSS tripping over themselves to comply with Fascism surveillance capitalism instead of the long established international and national accessibility laws and accessibility guidelines and disability inclusion guidelines? Surely, one thing is better than the other, no? And it ain't Fascism surveillance capitalism that's the better option. #Linux #FOSS
@WeirdWriter I don't know. I hear systemd has a patch. Which wouldn't surprise me, because redhat (a company) probably wants to keep selling their OS to big tech companies in California.
But I've also seen a debian post on this, that tries to bring this to its logical conclusion.
https://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2026/03/msg00018.html
Which can be used as a basis for arguing this is a bad law. -
I just boosted a question, but I have a slightly reworded question. Why is Linux and FOSS tripping over themselves to comply with Fascism surveillance capitalism instead of the long established international and national accessibility laws and accessibility guidelines and disability inclusion guidelines? Surely, one thing is better than the other, no? And it ain't Fascism surveillance capitalism that's the better option. #Linux #FOSS
- corporate interests and their infiltrators with nothing to lose
- coordinated and focused fascism
- spineless people who have been trained to not be able to tell the difference between conflict and abuse and so avoid it at any cost, desperate for validation and to be seen as productive and cooperative
- exhaustion
- loneliness
- growth/adoption mindset, “winning”
- obsession with how instead of whyi.e. the usual capitalism syndrome
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@WeirdWriter I don't know. I hear systemd has a patch. Which wouldn't surprise me, because redhat (a company) probably wants to keep selling their OS to big tech companies in California.
But I've also seen a debian post on this, that tries to bring this to its logical conclusion.
https://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2026/03/msg00018.html
Which can be used as a basis for arguing this is a bad law.@nahratzah What a *server* OS has to do with age verification?
Does it need to verify only it's installer, or all of it's users then?@WeirdWriter -
@WeirdWriter I don't know. I hear systemd has a patch. Which wouldn't surprise me, because redhat (a company) probably wants to keep selling their OS to big tech companies in California.
But I've also seen a debian post on this, that tries to bring this to its logical conclusion.
https://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2026/03/msg00018.html
Which can be used as a basis for arguing this is a bad law. -
@nahratzah What a *server* OS has to do with age verification?
Does it need to verify only it's installer, or all of it's users then?@WeirdWriter@krahabors @WeirdWriter No idea.
But systemd is used by many linuxen.
And even server OSes have users, and can be used on your laptop (or a VM image).Depending on how the law is worded, these may or may not be in scope.
But for this question, I recommend you speak to a (qualified) sollicitor, which I am not.
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@krahabors @WeirdWriter No idea.
But systemd is used by many linuxen.
And even server OSes have users, and can be used on your laptop (or a VM image).Depending on how the law is worded, these may or may not be in scope.
But for this question, I recommend you speak to a (qualified) sollicitor, which I am not.
@nahratzah I know what is systemd, but in case of RH, this urgency is really strange.
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The dichotomy is weird to me. A lot of people (myself included) switched to FOSS to get away from the surveillance and data collection of big tech. Yet they see this as "oh, well it useless data because you can lie".
What? Fuck that. It's a wedge, the first of many, to further the data collection by the tech oligarchs to further sell and for surveillance. If it gets to it, I'll find a distro that doesn't use systemd
@klep @WeirdWriter https://agelesslinux.github.io
This project is preparing scripts to remove age verification for any distro that add it, as well as tracking the status of projects to see who is complying. Far from a perfect solution, but it goes to show that there are already distro that are fully defying this, as well as giving people workarounds. They're also making small protest computers that lack age verification for people to distribute at low cost. -
@klep @WeirdWriter https://agelesslinux.github.io
This project is preparing scripts to remove age verification for any distro that add it, as well as tracking the status of projects to see who is complying. Far from a perfect solution, but it goes to show that there are already distro that are fully defying this, as well as giving people workarounds. They're also making small protest computers that lack age verification for people to distribute at low cost.Good to know! Thank you!
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@WeirdWriter Because they are not willing to put themselves at legal risk to oppose them when there are much bigger things to be concerned about. Things like the wave of anti-trans laws and the accessibility stuff you mentioned.
@alwayscurious @WeirdWriter age verification is part of the anti-trans laws. that's why all the states introducing it are transphobic. they view transness as porn and deviance, and identity verification lets them control who can see the deviance, and track the ones that do.
we have to fight this war on all fronts, because all the fronts are the same war.
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Yep, I think so! And this is such an obvious step to even worse tech fascism, I can't articulate my rage loud enough. I absolutely hate all of this timeline. @dmoonfire
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