@paco @BenAveling it is just a stupid electronic device
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@paco Our rule, which we have found pretty accurate, is to take the time for the game on the box and double it. Box times only happen with experienced players (thus no teach) and no AP. In one of my regular gaming meetups there's a group of us who pride ourselves in actually being able to knock out Terraforming Mars:
Ares Expedition in the 45 minute box time.@CurtAdams @paco on Saturday night it was 9.15 and a game gets pulled out. I don't want to be staying late I says, it's only an hour long he replied. We start 20 minutes later after set up and rules explained. It took 80 minutes. So it's almost 11.00 when I left, rather than closer to 10.00 as I intended. I did come 2nd=/4 though, Call To Adventure.
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@paco love board games
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@paco Our rule, which we have found pretty accurate, is to take the time for the game on the box and double it. Box times only happen with experienced players (thus no teach) and no AP. In one of my regular gaming meetups there's a group of us who pride ourselves in actually being able to knock out Terraforming Mars:
Ares Expedition in the 45 minute box time.@CurtAdams It turns out one of our friends got a special card, misunderstood how it scored, and spent an hour doing a stupid strategy. All it did was interfere with the rest of us without getting him meaningful points (he was last out of 5). As soon as we explained how he wasn’t earning any points doing this, he stopped. The game ended like 15 minutes later.
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@paco OK 150main and about an hour to go seems long.
Architects always feels quite smooth an easy to "read". Even though I could not tell a strategy at all.
But I'm sure in the first game it might take a bit to figure everything out.
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@paco OK 150main and about an hour to go seems long.
Architects always feels quite smooth an easy to "read". Even though I could not tell a strategy at all.
But I'm sure in the first game it might take a bit to figure everything out.
And if all 4 player are new to the game it sure takes more than 90min.@TheDeckie If you know the game, we had a player who got The Keep. Thinking he'd get victory points for capturing people, he kept capturing over and over and over. Everyone was spending a lot of time getting their people out of prison and not a lot of time doing the steps that lead to victory. When he finally understood that the victory points only come at the end of the game, he stopped doing that. And once he stopped doing that, the game moved a lot more swiftly.
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@paco Our rule, which we have found pretty accurate, is to take the time for the game on the box and double it. Box times only happen with experienced players (thus no teach) and no AP. In one of my regular gaming meetups there's a group of us who pride ourselves in actually being able to knock out Terraforming Mars:
Ares Expedition in the 45 minute box time.@CurtAdams @paco We usually go by 150% for 2 players. If a range is given, we take the higher one; for 4 players the higher number times 2. Works pretty well for us with one major exception: Obsession!
The range on the box says 30-90 minutes, which is obscene. In real life, it takes us 2-3 hours with 2P and up to 3,5-4,5+ hours with 4P.
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@CurtAdams @paco We usually go by 150% for 2 players. If a range is given, we take the higher one; for 4 players the higher number times 2. Works pretty well for us with one major exception: Obsession!
The range on the box says 30-90 minutes, which is obscene. In real life, it takes us 2-3 hours with 2P and up to 3,5-4,5+ hours with 4P.
But still a great game and a fun time, every time.@jerk Yeah. We got into Obsession the last couple years. We can get it down to 2 hours with the 4 of us because we have all played many times.
Stupid American Heiresses. Pretty gamebreaking if you ask me. We have never seen anyone get an heiress early in the game and not win.
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@jerk Yeah. We got into Obsession the last couple years. We can get it down to 2 hours with the 4 of us because we have all played many times.
Stupid American Heiresses. Pretty gamebreaking if you ask me. We have never seen anyone get an heiress early in the game and not win.
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@CurtAdams Actually we hit 4h only twice, with one being embarrasing 5+ hours. The majority of our plays it with 2P, though. I also have witnessed plays, where a player, me included, with early AH didn't win. Sometimes by being unable to recover from the prestige hits (certainly by oberdoing it) along with bad luck on the builders market and/or guest draw.
Regardless, a wonderful game, if only the rule books would have been better. Beautiful and interesting lecture, though.
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@paco Things are truly in a bad way when satire is just reality with a slightly different speech cadence.
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I don't know, but I have personally talked to engineers working on projects like this, and man... there is no lack of enthusiasm. It gives you a profound feeling of ick to talk with them.
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The conch, the reef, his wife, and her lobster
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@paco Obligatory smartass reply, mentioning that individual change is pretty pointless in the absence of society-wide measures to address the climate catastrophe; and that the concept of a personal “carbon footprint” was invented by BP to deflect responsibility
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@paco it's like coal and oil, once people get hooked it's over! We will just keep digging our own graves.
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@paco Obligatory smartass reply, mentioning that individual change is pretty pointless in the absence of society-wide measures to address the climate catastrophe; and that the concept of a personal “carbon footprint” was invented by BP to deflect responsibility
@slothrop Fair enough. The point of the poll is that I realized a lot of my left-leaning friends do a bunch of things like recycling to help the climate. And then they use LLMs that do orders of magnitude more damage. These same people wouldn't throw trash in a creek or soda cans into the landfill, but they'll use LLMs for the most trivial purposes with minimal provocation.
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@slothrop Fair enough. The point of the poll is that I realized a lot of my left-leaning friends do a bunch of things like recycling to help the climate. And then they use LLMs that do orders of magnitude more damage. These same people wouldn't throw trash in a creek or soda cans into the landfill, but they'll use LLMs for the most trivial purposes with minimal provocation.
@paco Yes exactly! Not least due to the fact that you can’t even run a Google search anymore without interacting with an LLM.
And there’s the total failure of our political leaders to address the environmental impact of “AI”.
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@slothrop Fair enough. The point of the poll is that I realized a lot of my left-leaning friends do a bunch of things like recycling to help the climate. And then they use LLMs that do orders of magnitude more damage. These same people wouldn't throw trash in a creek or soda cans into the landfill, but they'll use LLMs for the most trivial purposes with minimal provocation.
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@paco I'm trying to think of a year in my adult life when I have not done everything except avoiding air travel. Which means those things are just part of the baseline, not "reduction".
(Some years, I flew twice weekly for work and then again on vacation.)
