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All men are mortal.

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  • lizzie@brain.worm.pinkL This user is from outside of this forum
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    All men are mortal. Socrates is a man. Cows produce milk. Therefore Socrates is mortal.

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    • lizzie@brain.worm.pinkL lizzie@brain.worm.pink

      All men are mortal. Socrates is a man. Cows produce milk. Therefore Socrates is mortal.

      konej@akko.wtfK This user is from outside of this forum
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      @lizzie@brain.worm.pink there's probably a logical flaw in this but i fail to see it

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        @lizzie@brain.worm.pink there's probably a logical flaw in this but i fail to see it

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        @konej there isnt. its wikipedia’s example of logical weakening. adding “cows produce milk” doesnt make anything no longer provable

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          All men are mortal. Socrates is a man. Cows produce milk. Therefore Socrates is mortal.

          kirby@freerobuxextremist.comK This user is from outside of this forum
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          @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

          #include "cow.h"
          #include <assert.h>
          
          typedef struct {
           bool mortal;
          } man_t;
          
          int main() {
           cow_t c;
           c.producesmilk = true;
           man_t m;
           
           if (c.producesmilk)
            assert(m.mortal);
           return 0;
          }
          
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          • kirby@freerobuxextremist.comK kirby@freerobuxextremist.com

            @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

            #include "cow.h"
            #include <assert.h>
            
            typedef struct {
             bool mortal;
            } man_t;
            
            int main() {
             cow_t c;
             c.producesmilk = true;
             man_t m;
             
             if (c.producesmilk)
              assert(m.mortal);
             return 0;
            }
            
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            @kirby in the initial statements, whether socrates is mortal is not contingent on if cows produce milk. you just created “cows produce milk. if cows produce milk, then check if an uninitialized man could produce milk”

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              @kirby in the initial statements, whether socrates is mortal is not contingent on if cows produce milk. you just created “cows produce milk. if cows produce milk, then check if an uninitialized man could produce milk”

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              @kirby my initial typo was way funnier tbh

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