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  • onepict@chaos.socialO onepict@chaos.social

    @EUCommission So which of those pictures are real and which are fake?

    I'm pleased with the alt text but I feel you missed an opportunity to lead by example. 😊

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    @onepict @EUCommission if you're wondering why these exact images were chosen, probably related to them being used for ai (machine learning) image recognition training. Early models used to confuse that cupcake for a dog, that donut/bagel for a dog, etc
    but as eu said, they're all real images

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    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

      Real or AI? We want to make sure you always know the answer.

      New rules will make it mandatory for AI-generated content to be clearly labelled.

      You have the right to know if you're chatting with a bot or looking at a deep fake.

      Have your say 👇

      https://link.europa.eu/hBcvvQ

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      @EUCommission So, if the notion is, in the public's eye, that all AI posts are labeled, doesn't that make them more vulnerable to unmarked AI content? Or is the idea that this will be total, and no one could sneak by?

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      • thany@mastodon.socialT thany@mastodon.social

        @EUCommission Do you also have a plan on how to enforce this rule?

        And who is going to be responsible/liable: platform owners, or end-users posting images?

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        @thany@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu
        They'll make a central EU app that will try to tell if it's AI while spying on you

        Wouldn't want to hurt giant capitalists by forcing them to do better (like with age verification) after all. And forcing end users won't work because people are idiots and need big brother to watch over them

        How's my EU impression?

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        • angelicaura@transfem.socialA angelicaura@transfem.social

          @thany@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu
          They'll make a central EU app that will try to tell if it's AI while spying on you

          Wouldn't want to hurt giant capitalists by forcing them to do better (like with age verification) after all. And forcing end users won't work because people are idiots and need big brother to watch over them

          How's my EU impression?

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          @AngelicAura @EUCommission And that app is called Max?

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          • starduster75@mastodon.socialS starduster75@mastodon.social

            @EUCommission So, if the notion is, in the public's eye, that all AI posts are labeled, doesn't that make them more vulnerable to unmarked AI content? Or is the idea that this will be total, and no one could sneak by?

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            @starduster75 @EUCommission The first time someone posts unlabelled "AI" generated content, they get a warning. The second time the EU takes their keyboard and mouse away. The third time they are banned from buying any input device EU/EEA-wide.

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            • starduster75@mastodon.socialS starduster75@mastodon.social

              @EUCommission So, if the notion is, in the public's eye, that all AI posts are labeled, doesn't that make them more vulnerable to unmarked AI content? Or is the idea that this will be total, and no one could sneak by?

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              #15

              @starduster75

              @EUCommission

              I guess it would be enforced to the image generators, that they include by law a signal that that image is generated by AI (if it was me, it should be a file extension that cannot be losslessly converted to any other format).

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              • thibaultmol@en.osm.townT thibaultmol@en.osm.town

                @onepict @EUCommission if you're wondering why these exact images were chosen, probably related to them being used for ai (machine learning) image recognition training. Early models used to confuse that cupcake for a dog, that donut/bagel for a dog, etc
                but as eu said, they're all real images

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                @thibaultmol @EUCommission This is why the Fediverse is awesome.

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                • onepict@chaos.socialO onepict@chaos.social

                  @thibaultmol @EUCommission This is why the Fediverse is awesome.

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                  #17

                  @onepict @EUCommission in case you want to see more:

                  Link Preview ImageLink Preview Image
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                  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                    Real or AI? We want to make sure you always know the answer.

                    New rules will make it mandatory for AI-generated content to be clearly labelled.

                    You have the right to know if you're chatting with a bot or looking at a deep fake.

                    Have your say 👇

                    https://link.europa.eu/hBcvvQ

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                    #18

                    @EUCommission stop trading with Israel.

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                    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                      Real or AI? We want to make sure you always know the answer.

                      New rules will make it mandatory for AI-generated content to be clearly labelled.

                      You have the right to know if you're chatting with a bot or looking at a deep fake.

                      Have your say 👇

                      https://link.europa.eu/hBcvvQ

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                      #19

                      @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu oh hell yeah! another (potential) win in the tech sector

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                      • maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizzaM maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizza

                        @EUCommission That bagel is an abomination before the Lord, but I suppose that is a different question.

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                        #20

                        @maccruiskeen @EUCommission

                        I thought it should have been a croissant.

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                        • starduster75@mastodon.socialS starduster75@mastodon.social

                          @EUCommission So, if the notion is, in the public's eye, that all AI posts are labeled, doesn't that make them more vulnerable to unmarked AI content? Or is the idea that this will be total, and no one could sneak by?

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                          @starduster75 @EUCommission

                          laws don't change much if there is no enforcement

                          but laws do provide a rationale for enforcement

                          so now there is a basis to make an enforcement effort, so it is still a good step

                          it still remains a difficult effort, but evidence can come from various quarters, not just "look at the pixels"

                          that someone might be lulled into false trust doesn't seem like a problem to me. people understand just passing a law doesn't mean everything made illegal instantly disappears

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                          • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                            Real or AI? We want to make sure you always know the answer.

                            New rules will make it mandatory for AI-generated content to be clearly labelled.

                            You have the right to know if you're chatting with a bot or looking at a deep fake.

                            Have your say 👇

                            https://link.europa.eu/hBcvvQ

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                            @EUCommission

                            They are all cake. Just eat eat it.

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                            • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                              Real or AI? We want to make sure you always know the answer.

                              New rules will make it mandatory for AI-generated content to be clearly labelled.

                              You have the right to know if you're chatting with a bot or looking at a deep fake.

                              Have your say 👇

                              https://link.europa.eu/hBcvvQ

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                              #23

                              @EUCommission how you are going to enforce it?

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                              • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                Real or AI? We want to make sure you always know the answer.

                                New rules will make it mandatory for AI-generated content to be clearly labelled.

                                You have the right to know if you're chatting with a bot or looking at a deep fake.

                                Have your say 👇

                                https://link.europa.eu/hBcvvQ

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                                #24

                                @EUCommission

                                Haha, a classic indeed!

                                On the internet nobody knows you’re a dog…

                                We need clear rules of engagement indeed!

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                                • onepict@chaos.socialO onepict@chaos.social

                                  @thibaultmol @EUCommission This is why the Fediverse is awesome.

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                                  @onepict @thibaultmol @EUCommission Yeah, the selected images are a little Easter egg (I think) related to machine learning - seems an odd selection at first, but there's a little joke in there!

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                                  • thibaultmol@en.osm.townT thibaultmol@en.osm.town

                                    @onepict @EUCommission in case you want to see more:

                                    Link Preview ImageLink Preview Image
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                                    @thibaultmol @onepict @EUCommission Looking at these pictures always triggers a deep awe at human pattern recognition ability for me.

                                    (And then I watch Is It Cake? and deeply enjoy the bakers explaining that they picked something (that has a 50% chance of being wrong) because "it looked cakey".)

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                                    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                      Real or AI? We want to make sure you always know the answer.

                                      New rules will make it mandatory for AI-generated content to be clearly labelled.

                                      You have the right to know if you're chatting with a bot or looking at a deep fake.

                                      Have your say 👇

                                      https://link.europa.eu/hBcvvQ

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                                      frutigeraero00@mastodon.social
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                                      @EUCommission This is a very very good news, thanks for working on this! 👏

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                                      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                        Real or AI? We want to make sure you always know the answer.

                                        New rules will make it mandatory for AI-generated content to be clearly labelled.

                                        You have the right to know if you're chatting with a bot or looking at a deep fake.

                                        Have your say 👇

                                        https://link.europa.eu/hBcvvQ

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                                        kolorafa@mastodon.com.pl
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                                        @EUCommission

                                        It would be nice if that would extend also to news page sites that are generated on mass with AI.

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                                        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                          Real or AI? We want to make sure you always know the answer.

                                          New rules will make it mandatory for AI-generated content to be clearly labelled.

                                          You have the right to know if you're chatting with a bot or looking at a deep fake.

                                          Have your say 👇

                                          https://link.europa.eu/hBcvvQ

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                                          @EUCommission How are you going to prevent this being another "do you consent to cookies" or California's ubiquitous lead warning situation? Media are already tagging articles with "AI was used to private this article and fact checked by journalists" as currently (mis)used there will be a sprinkling of AI everywhere, like rat droppings somewhere with an infestation.

                                          A much better focus for the EU would be to stop feeding the hype machine. The current AI future sold by LLM VC funded juggernauts is not inevitable, plausible or desirable. The EU having AI strategies including funding for local riders on the bubble is a massive waste of money and a business own goal.
                                          #AI #LLM #EU

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