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  3. The UK economy has suffered tremendously from the decision to leave the EU, but it will all be fixed, if Nigel Farage gets another go at it, thinks 28 percent of Brits.

The UK economy has suffered tremendously from the decision to leave the EU, but it will all be fixed, if Nigel Farage gets another go at it, thinks 28 percent of Brits.

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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

    The UK economy has suffered tremendously from the decision to leave the EU, but it will all be fixed, if Nigel Farage gets another go at it, thinks 28 percent of Brits.

    Madness!

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    @randahl Ah! yes, that 1/3, well almost. A few more months of social media disinformation and targeting should get that up to 1/3. Totally insane, but here we are. Perhaps labour, the greens and lib dems need to coalesce .... Perhaps there's a need for counter-disinformation on the same scale? Whatever, but something has to be done before the UK becomes the 51st state....

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    • taatm@mathstodon.xyzT taatm@mathstodon.xyz

      @randahl
      Nope.

      Just nope.

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      @taatm "The thing about populism is it is popular!"

      🤦🏻‍♂️

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      • rien@mastodon.greenR rien@mastodon.green

        @randahl and 70% of the voters know Nigel Farage will never do anything for their country and do not give him their vote.

        I am as shocked as you that 28% of the voters does not see through his madness, but we should not ignore the silent majority that does and wants to vote for real politicians.

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        @rien @randahl silence is never enough to win elections

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        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

          The UK economy has suffered tremendously from the decision to leave the EU, but it will all be fixed, if Nigel Farage gets another go at it, thinks 28 percent of Brits.

          Madness!

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          @randahl that means 28% are at the USamerican cognitive level. Better than at Brexit voting times: 53% of the English and 52% of the UK ppl voted for Brexit.

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          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

            The UK economy has suffered tremendously from the decision to leave the EU, but it will all be fixed, if Nigel Farage gets another go at it, thinks 28 percent of Brits.

            Madness!

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            @randahl

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            • randal_silversword@mastodon.socialR randal_silversword@mastodon.social

              @rien @randahl silence is never enough to win elections

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              @randal_silversword @randahl agreed, but voting is! And instead of ignoring the 70% we should encourage them to speak up and make their presence louder in the public debate.

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              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                The UK economy has suffered tremendously from the decision to leave the EU, but it will all be fixed, if Nigel Farage gets another go at it, thinks 28 percent of Brits.

                Madness!

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                @randahl rest of the world REALLY needs preferential voting

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                • ilka4you@mastodon.socialI ilka4you@mastodon.social

                  @randahl that means 28% are at the USamerican cognitive level. Better than at Brexit voting times: 53% of the English and 52% of the UK ppl voted for Brexit.

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                  @Ilka4You you are right! We should remember that is in fact an improvement. But it is still a dangerously high support for madness though.

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                  • bgrinter@mastodon.sdf.orgB bgrinter@mastodon.sdf.org

                    @randahl rest of the world REALLY needs preferential voting

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                    @bgrinter okay… please elaborate… ?

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                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                      @bgrinter okay… please elaborate… ?

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                      @randahl I agree with @bgrinter ! Preferential voting is much better than first past the post (which they have in the UK). Randahl - here’s an explanation: https://www.aec.gov.au/learn/files/poster-counting-hor-pref-voting.pdf

                      However, it arguably only really works with the other part of Australia’s secret sauce: compulsory voting. That’s how you ensure 90%+ of the people vote.

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                      • james@bne.socialJ james@bne.social

                        @randahl I agree with @bgrinter ! Preferential voting is much better than first past the post (which they have in the UK). Randahl - here’s an explanation: https://www.aec.gov.au/learn/files/poster-counting-hor-pref-voting.pdf

                        However, it arguably only really works with the other part of Australia’s secret sauce: compulsory voting. That’s how you ensure 90%+ of the people vote.

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                        @james @bgrinter while I agree that FPP voting is bad for democracy, I do not think preferential voting is the only right solution.

                        For instance, Danish elections use socalled leveling seats to ensure proportionality. When we vote for our 179 members of Parliament, 40 seats are reserved for ensuring proportionality.

                        First the 139 normal seats are assigned, and then we assign the last 40 seats in such a way that we come as close as possible to correct proportional representation.

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