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Q: I want to wash my car.

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  • ramblingsteve@floss.socialR ramblingsteve@floss.social

    @knowmadd gpt-oss also recommends walking. I asked if I should buy a 50m hosepipe to take with me and it rightly reminded me: "No. A 50m hosepipe is excessive for washing a car 50m from your house — you don’t need to stretch it that far. A 25m hose is sufficient and more manageable." Can't argue with 120bn in logic. 🤡💦

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    @ramblingsteve 🤣

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    • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

      Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

      What do you think the LLM output was?

      Please; review the output.

      #ai #LLM #ai

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      @knowmadd That is a super intelligent AI right there.

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      • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

        Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

        What do you think the LLM output was?

        Please; review the output.

        #ai #LLM #ai

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        @knowmadd

        “I burned down a rainforest and all I got was more stupider.”

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        • ppxl@social.tchncs.deP ppxl@social.tchncs.de

          @knowmadd this sounds like the nerd grocery shopping problem.

          A: "Darling, please go shopping. Bring 2 liters of milk. If they have eggs, bring 10."

          Later the nerd returns.

          A: "Why did you bring so much milk?!"

          B: "They had eggs. You said, I should bring 10 liters of milk if they have eggs."

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          @ppxl @knowmadd 🤣🤣

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          • outofspace@berlin.socialO outofspace@berlin.social

            @Azuaron @knowmadd deepseek does not recommend to walk 🤔

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            @OutOfSpace @knowmadd "For minimal environmental benefit -> walk (and then drive)"

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            • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

              Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

              What do you think the LLM output was?

              Please; review the output.

              #ai #LLM #ai

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              @knowmadd well in their defence (I'm doing what?) a good chunk of people would say the same thing. Hopefully only for a moment though, before they went 'wait a second!" 🙂

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              • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                What do you think the LLM output was?

                Please; review the output.

                #ai #LLM #ai

                kerrick@ruby.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                @knowmadd It's interesting to see different "levels" of Gemini respond in different ways.

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                • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                  Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                  What do you think the LLM output was?

                  Please; review the output.

                  #ai #LLM #ai

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                  @knowmadd – Claude is too stupid for me to bother with.

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                  • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                    Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                    What do you think the LLM output was?

                    Please; review the output.

                    #ai #LLM #ai

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                    @knowmadd DeepSeek :
                    "You should drive the car to the car wash because the car needs to be at the location to be washed. Walking would leave the car at home, so you wouldn't be able to wash it."

                    (In its working out it discussed environmental issues but also pointed out they were irrelevant as the car needs to be present )

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                    • azuaron@cyberpunk.lolA azuaron@cyberpunk.lol

                      @OutOfSpace @knowmadd "For minimal environmental benefit -> walk (and then drive)"

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                      @Azuaron @knowmadd Yeah, as a second option. First option recommended:
                      For convinience -> Drive.

                      This is what is called selective reporting. Marketing departments of pharmaceutical industry are famous for it.

                      My point was that deepseek recognized that the car needs to be at the car wash in the end. This is at least a little bit better than the other llms in your test. Your alt-text suggested otherwise.

                      I don't want to say that deepseek performed well in your test though 🤣

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                      • roblen@microblog.atR roblen@microblog.at

                        @knowmadd I tried to reproduce the result with Gemini and ChatGPT. Either the AI has learned something new, or there is another reason for this. Neither fell for the trick question and even responded with irony in some cases.

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                        @roblen @knowmadd How often have you tried? Only once?

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                        • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                          Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                          What do you think the LLM output was?

                          Please; review the output.

                          #ai #LLM #ai

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                          @knowmadd GLM4.7 pass the test. And nearly every other up to date thinking model too 😉

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                          • bjoern@chaos.socialB bjoern@chaos.social

                            @knowmadd GLM4.7 pass the test. And nearly every other up to date thinking model too 😉

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                            @knowmadd GLM 5 gives a pretty clear answer

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                            • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                              Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                              What do you think the LLM output was?

                              Please; review the output.

                              #ai #LLM #ai

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                              @knowmadd the e2e-encrypted models at confer.to got it sort of right?:

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                              • weizenspreu@chaos.socialW weizenspreu@chaos.social

                                @roblen @knowmadd How often have you tried? Only once?

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                                @weizenspreu @knowmadd Yes. Only once.

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                                • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                                  Deepseek and Qwen

                                  #llm #ai

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                                  @knowmadd I like Deepseek’s “hey just go for a walk anyway but remember to come back for the car” response 😅

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                                  • roblen@microblog.atR roblen@microblog.at

                                    @weizenspreu @knowmadd Yes. Only once.

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                                    @roblen @knowmadd Given that LLMs are non-deterministic and employ randomness a single test often isn‘t enough.

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                                    • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                                      Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                                      What do you think the LLM output was?

                                      Please; review the output.

                                      #ai #LLM #ai

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                                      @knowmadd

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                                      • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                                        Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                                        What do you think the LLM output was?

                                        Please; review the output.

                                        #ai #LLM #ai

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                                        @knowmadd

                                        Please put this also on LinkedIn. That's the audience that needs such things as constant reminder.

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                                        • knowmadd@mastodon.worldK knowmadd@mastodon.world

                                          Q: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

                                          What do you think the LLM output was?

                                          Please; review the output.

                                          #ai #LLM #ai

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                                          Z.ai GLM-5:

                                          You should **drive**.

                                          Here is why:

                                          1. **Logic:** You cannot wash your car if you leave it behind. Walking there would mean arriving at the car wash without the object you intend to clean.
                                          2. **Efficiency:** While 50 meters is a very short distance (about half a football field), driving takes the car directly to the cleaning equipment.

                                          **Tip:** Since 50 meters is a very short trip, try to avoid turning the engine off immediately upon arrival if the engine was cold; short trips without warm-up time can be slightly harder on the engine over the long term. However, for the sake of the task, driving is the only option that makes sense.

                                          @knowmadd

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