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๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท Update: Brief returns of internet access are driving spikes in Snowflake usage.

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  • sb@metroholografix.caS sb@metroholografix.ca

    @torproject
    How do clients know to connect to an instance of snowflake? Does the server 'phone home' somewhere to list itself as available?

    blackwolf@fedi.atB This user is from outside of this forum
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    @sb @torproject Bitchat also uses the tor network by default. So running a Snowflake proxy node will support it as well. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    • torproject@mastodon.socialT torproject@mastodon.social

      ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท Update: Brief returns of internet access are driving spikes in Snowflake usage. Please help us run more proxies if you can. โ„๏ธ snowflake.torproject.org

      The easiest ways to run Snowflake is by using Tor Browser, Orbot, or installing the browser add on in your current browser. Extra capacity helps people in Iran stay connected when the network comes back online.

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      #18

      @torproject I'm running the plugin in Brave browser since approximately 2 years or so. But just set up a permanent proxy node on my VPS as well.

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      • shark@miniwa.moeS shark@miniwa.moe
        @sb @torproject I'm not sure exactly how, but maybe because snowflake proxies are used as entry nodes, broker discovers them the same way that TOR entry nodes are discovered (which I also don't know how)

        maybe tomorrow I'll start reading on it a bit
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        #19
        @sb @torproject found something
        "Proxies poll the broker periodically, using ordinary HTTPS requests."
        https://www.bamsoftware.com/papers/snowflake/
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        • shark@miniwa.moeS shark@miniwa.moe
          @sb @torproject found something
          "Proxies poll the broker periodically, using ordinary HTTPS requests."
          https://www.bamsoftware.com/papers/snowflake/
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          #20
          @sb @torproject also snowflake works behind NAT, there is no need for opening a port.
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          • joevan@mastodon.socialJ joevan@mastodon.social

            @Ann_Effes @torproject

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            Snowflake โ€“ Holen Sie sich diese Erweiterung fรผr ๐ŸฆŠ Firefox (de)

            Laden Sie Snowflake fรผr Firefox herunter. Help people in censored countries access the Internet without restrictions. Once you install and enable the extension, wait for the snowflake icon to turn green, this means a censored user is connecting through your extension to access the Internet!

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            (addons.mozilla.org)

            Addon for Firefox

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            @joevan @Ann_Effes @torproject Are we talking about security here?
            Having this as a browser extension, next to my banking, email, docs and all, sounds a little crazy. This should be a process running under its own user.

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            • ondrejzizka@mastodon.socialO ondrejzizka@mastodon.social

              @joevan @Ann_Effes @torproject Are we talking about security here?
              Having this as a browser extension, next to my banking, email, docs and all, sounds a little crazy. This should be a process running under its own user.

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              @OndrejZizka @Ann_Effes @torproject

              For LINUX:

              - it is open source
              - it runs in the context of Firefox
              - it does not need any additional rights

              For WINDOWS:

              - everything is always not secure

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              • blackwolf@fedi.atB This user is from outside of this forum
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                @trrektor @torproject statistics of the first hour after setting up a new proxy node today:
                In the last 1h0m0s, there were 21 completed successful connections. Traffic Relayed โ†“ 15910 KB (4.42 KB/s), โ†‘ 8912 KB (2.48 KB/s).

                So, I don't think you will really notice any impact.

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                • ondrejzizka@mastodon.socialO ondrejzizka@mastodon.social

                  @joevan @Ann_Effes @torproject Are we talking about security here?
                  Having this as a browser extension, next to my banking, email, docs and all, sounds a little crazy. This should be a process running under its own user.

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                  #24

                  @OndrejZizka @Ann_Effes @torproject

                  But if you are concerned: Buy a used Raspberry Pi, install the OS and Docker. Run Snowflake in a docker container:

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                  Tor Project | Docker setup

                  Defend yourself against tracking and surveillance. Circumvent censorship. | Docker setup

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                  20 to 30 bucks and 30 minutes to install everything

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                  • ondrejzizka@mastodon.socialO ondrejzizka@mastodon.social

                    @joevan @Ann_Effes @torproject Are we talking about security here?
                    Having this as a browser extension, next to my banking, email, docs and all, sounds a little crazy. This should be a process running under its own user.

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                    @OndrejZizka @joevan @torproject

                    I use about 4 browsers, each for a certain purpose. I installed the extension in Brave, which I use for test purposes only, nothing serious.

                    I considered installing it on one of my servers, but my network setup is quite strange (double NAT with IP blackholeing) and because of that it would not work actually.

                    (And I am on a Mac , not Windows)

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                    • joevan@mastodon.socialJ joevan@mastodon.social

                      @OndrejZizka @Ann_Effes @torproject

                      But if you are concerned: Buy a used Raspberry Pi, install the OS and Docker. Run Snowflake in a docker container:

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                      Tor Project | Docker setup

                      Defend yourself against tracking and surveillance. Circumvent censorship. | Docker setup

                      favicon

                      (community.torproject.org)

                      20 to 30 bucks and 30 minutes to install everything

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                      @joevan @OndrejZizka @torproject

                      Why the docker container? Makes things more complicated for beginners and does not add to security if you have a dedicated RPi anyways.

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                      • ann_effes@berlin.socialA ann_effes@berlin.social

                        @joevan @OndrejZizka @torproject

                        Why the docker container? Makes things more complicated for beginners and does not add to security if you have a dedicated RPi anyways.

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                        @Ann_Effes @OndrejZizka @torproject Complicated? - No, the setup was very easy. And I am not very familar with Docker.

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                        • joevan@mastodon.socialJ joevan@mastodon.social

                          @Ann_Effes @OndrejZizka @torproject Complicated? - No, the setup was very easy. And I am not very familar with Docker.

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                          @joevan @OndrejZizka @torproject

                          Well โ€ฆ as it is one step more than just installing OS it IS in purely factual terms already more complicated.

                          Please note that real newbees do not even know what docker IS. So being "not very familliar" is already an advanced level of understanding.

                          I mean: if you want to convince people who are new to RPi we should keep it as simple as possible.

                          Using Docker in a single use scenario suits no purpose ... or maybe I do not get it.

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                          • ann_effes@berlin.socialA ann_effes@berlin.social

                            @joevan @OndrejZizka @torproject

                            Well โ€ฆ as it is one step more than just installing OS it IS in purely factual terms already more complicated.

                            Please note that real newbees do not even know what docker IS. So being "not very familliar" is already an advanced level of understanding.

                            I mean: if you want to convince people who are new to RPi we should keep it as simple as possible.

                            Using Docker in a single use scenario suits no purpose ... or maybe I do not get it.

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                            @Ann_Effes @OndrejZizka @torproject I will make a short tutorial tomorrow. Very beginner friendly...now it's time to sleep.

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                            • torproject@mastodon.socialT torproject@mastodon.social

                              ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท Update: Brief returns of internet access are driving spikes in Snowflake usage. Please help us run more proxies if you can. โ„๏ธ snowflake.torproject.org

                              The easiest ways to run Snowflake is by using Tor Browser, Orbot, or installing the browser add on in your current browser. Extra capacity helps people in Iran stay connected when the network comes back online.

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                              @torproject

                              snowflake-proxy | In the last 1h0m0s, there were 117 completed successful connections. Traffic Relayed โ†“ 256469 KB (71.24 KB/s), โ†‘ 59127 KB (16.42 KB/s).

                              Wish there was a way to set an alternative limit of connections somehow? Not because I want less, but because I could and would handle WAY more than this

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                              • joevan@mastodon.socialJ joevan@mastodon.social

                                @Ann_Effes @OndrejZizka @torproject I will make a short tutorial tomorrow. Very beginner friendly...now it's time to sleep.

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                                @joevan @OndrejZizka @torproject

                                Cool, but โ€ฆ just do be sure: The question I have is not: "How do I use Docker on a RPi?"
                                but
                                "Why should I use Docker on an RPi, especially if I am running only one service?"

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                                • ann_effes@berlin.socialA ann_effes@berlin.social

                                  @joevan @OndrejZizka @torproject

                                  Cool, but โ€ฆ just do be sure: The question I have is not: "How do I use Docker on a RPi?"
                                  but
                                  "Why should I use Docker on an RPi, especially if I am running only one service?"

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                                  @Ann_Effes @joevan @torproject It can give you some convenience. The image is already prepared with almost no need for setup. Versus possible complicated config and setup for a custom system.

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                                  • torproject@mastodon.socialT torproject@mastodon.social

                                    ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท Update: Brief returns of internet access are driving spikes in Snowflake usage. Please help us run more proxies if you can. โ„๏ธ snowflake.torproject.org

                                    The easiest ways to run Snowflake is by using Tor Browser, Orbot, or installing the browser add on in your current browser. Extra capacity helps people in Iran stay connected when the network comes back online.

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                                    @torproject

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                                    infoek.cz :archlinux: (@infoekcz@mamutovo.cz)

                                    Attached: 1 image ๐Ÿง… Pomoc s obchรกzenรญm cenzury internetu? Nainstalujte Snowflake https://infoek.cz/pomoc-s-obchazenim-cenzury-internetu-nainstalujte-snowflake-2026/ ๐Ÿง… Help with bypassing internet censorship? Install Snowflake https://infoek-cz.translate.goog/pomoc-s-obchazenim-cenzury-internetu-nainstalujte-snowflake-2026/?_x_tr_sl=cs&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=cs&_x_tr_pto=wapp @torproject@mastodon.social #Snowflake #TorBrowser #Tor #Onion #Censorship

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                                    • blackwolf@fedi.atB blackwolf@fedi.at

                                      @trrektor @torproject statistics of the first hour after setting up a new proxy node today:
                                      In the last 1h0m0s, there were 21 completed successful connections. Traffic Relayed โ†“ 15910 KB (4.42 KB/s), โ†‘ 8912 KB (2.48 KB/s).

                                      So, I don't think you will really notice any impact.

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                                      @trrektor @torproject Maximum after 19 hours so far:
                                      In the last 1h0m0s, there were 21 completed successful connections. Traffic Relayed โ†“ 66964 KB (18.60 KB/s), โ†‘ 12179 KB (3.38 KB/s).

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                                        @trrektor @torproject you should start to see hourly status updates, like the ones I posted earlier ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                        • torproject@mastodon.socialT torproject@mastodon.social

                                          ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท Update: Brief returns of internet access are driving spikes in Snowflake usage. Please help us run more proxies if you can. โ„๏ธ snowflake.torproject.org

                                          The easiest ways to run Snowflake is by using Tor Browser, Orbot, or installing the browser add on in your current browser. Extra capacity helps people in Iran stay connected when the network comes back online.

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                                          @torproject You're not kidding. I was running a Snowflake Proxy a couple of years ago and would see only a few connections each day. In response to your call, I set one up about 15 hours ago and have had 23 connections so far.

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